Personally, I wouldn't rank relievers very high - they have their own award. But some voters have, so that's why I don't really see anything odd about having Helsley that high. I wouldn't have had him there, but I don't vote.
I don't even know who Denton is, so I don't care to read anything about his justification for it. It is a 5th place vote for an award that had a unanimous winner. Why should anyone even care? Anything beyond 3rd place votes don't even affect things unless it is a really contested year.
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By WPA he was the sixth most valuable pitcher in the NL in obviously limited duty. To be fair to relievers there's a good argument to consider the leverage of their outings. I wouldn't have voted for him but it's defensible.Big Amoco Sign wrote: ↑November 17 22, 2:58 pmI still don't see the argument for Helsley. Unless we do change IP limit to him. RE24 is a good context-neutral stat but I am unsure 6th best at that, with IP adjustment, means he is deserving of a vote. And isn't the best ERA+/ERA- guy Phillips? And he didn't make Denton's list so...