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Michael Harris wins Rookie of the Year

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Big Amoco Sign wrote:
November 7 22, 11:33 pm
Manny deserves it. Edges out Nolan playing in a pitcher park that kills righties and just as good with the glove.
Not to take anything away from Machado, but what are you basing this on? Machado is very good, but Arenado is an all-time great defensively.
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Rk                Player Rfield Rfield   To   Age    G
1        Brooks Robinson    258    258 1977 24-40 2440
2          Mark Belanger    241    241 1982 21-38 2016
3            Ozzie Smith    239    239 1996 23-41 2573
4           Andruw Jones    235    235 2012 19-35 2196
5          Adrian Beltre    216    216 2018 19-39 2933
6      Andrelton Simmons    200    200 2022 22-32 1225
7       Carl Yastrzemski    184    184 1983 21-43 3308
8         Cal Ripken Jr.    181    181 2001 20-40 3001
9            Scott Rolen    175    175 2012 21-37 2038
10           Barry Bonds    175    175 2007 21-42 2986
11            Paul Blair    174    174 1980 20-36 1947
12            Buddy Bell    174    174 1989 20-37 2405
13        Jesse Barfield    161    161 1992 21-32 1428
14         Robin Ventura    155    155 2004 21-36 2079
15         Nolan Arenado    155    155 2022 22-31 1384
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74         Manny Machado     86     86 2022 19-29 1445
I know you like OOA. Arenado beats Machado in that one 92 to 12 over the last however many years it's existed.
And yes I am using fWAR as it seems more well-rounded using wRC+, RAA, among other factors.
Those are the same thing - wRC+ is just an adjusted rate version and BRef uses the same thing. They both use park and league adjusted batting runs based on Tango's linear weights. I mean, I don't think there's any difference except that BRef tweaks it slightly for their calulation of wRAA. An example of one of those tweaks is not treating infield and outfield singles the same.

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Magneto2.0 wrote:
November 14 22, 6:53 pm
Michael Harris wins Rookie of the Year
I honestly think I would've voted Strider first, Harris second. They both had exemplary rookie seasons, but how often do you see a rookie pitcher (esp in this era) put up 200k with a low walk rate and an ERA under 3 and a FIP under 2? My guess is "never."

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so does ATL get an extra 1s round pick?

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go birds wrote:
November 15 22, 11:45 am
so does ATL get an extra 1s round pick?
No, because Harris didn't come up til Memorial Day weekend and didn't get a full year of service time.

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https://www.stltoday.com/sports/basebal ... 66913.html
In the three years that the Rawlings Team Gold Glove has been awarded, two of those times it has gone to the Cardinals.

The Cardinals were announced on Tuesday as the winners of the National League Team Gold Glove Award giving them back-to-back years they have claimed the award that recognizes the best team defense throughout the entirety of the regular season.

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Sandy Alcantara wins NL Cy Young, unanimously

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Justin Verlander wins AL Cy Young, unanimously too

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Sad reality is, if Alcantara stayed here, he'd more than likely be a relief pitcher.

You can take this as a negative or a positive (depending on perspective) but because the Cardinals compete every year, it doesn't lend itself to letting talented but flawed young pitchers work on their craft in the rotation. All our flamethrowers are in the bullpen and rarely get chances to compete in the rotation. Our young guys who have good stuff but not a lot of control/command, may get a handful of starts (usually filling in for an injured pitcher) and if they're not lights out immediately, Cardinals change course and leave them in the bullpen. Alcantara would've been another one.

Bad teams (like the Marlins) have the luxury of letting guys figure out.

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