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lukethedrifter wrote:But you can see a guy play the ball, get to the ball first, make some contact, then either get called for foul or not.

The way I'm understanding thrill is the ref determines whether the contact was incidental or not.
Think shooting fouls in basketball for the general idea, and also for the (in)consistency in how they're called.
Other than the elite leagues, aren't slide tackles mostly being outlawed?
Some youth leagues(like, elementary age) may outlaw sliding tackles for safety, and in general you see less of them the lower you go because it's not a particularly easy thing to do well and not end up doing something wreckless/dangerous, but it's not something that's really going away.

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Soccer (football) was (and still is) a contact sport.

A foul is down to the referees discression. The argument is that if a player plays the ball and takes a man out at the same time he shouldnt be penalised.

They have clamped down on tackling to try and make the game more free flowing. It is annoying as there is an art to it if it is done properly....



In that video Neville makes sure he plays the ball and "lets Ronaldo know he is there". Of course he got booked but I would argue he shouldn't have. 20 years ago I doubt it would have even been a foul.

Of course sometimes some go OTT.....


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From Beasley to Houston:
According to MLS rules, Designated Players of a certain threshold - as determined by the league - are subject to the allocation ranking. Beasley falls into that category the same way Maurice Edu did when he signed with the Philadelphia Union earlier this year.
As fun as that is on its own, the other fun part about this, is that when fans were super pissed about Dempsey (most of them from my own team), the explanation was simply 'designated players are not subject to the allocation ranking' without any qualification at all. I recall an interview with Seattle's GM explaining that DP and allocation were two separate avenues to adding players to MLS.

The league either has no respect for its fans or has incredibly little foresight (the first time this came up was some 4 months after Dempsey). I don't know which is worse. At least they've learned something by adding some dubious qualifiers in there.

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Shady. What's new?
Be interesting to see where Jermaine Jones falls in the branding spectrum. Guess we'll know if he ends up on the Galaxy or Red Bulls.

Cheer up, Timbers. I guarantee if Merritt Paulson wanted to drop $6,000,000 on Tim Howard and Tim Howard said he only wanted to play in Portland, it would get done.

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BM is coming to Portland for the ASG soon. The time to do that was ahead of that when we have whatever little buzz that might create, maybe slightly intensified off Germany's WC win. And the league would have been accommodating and/or shady for us, absolutely. Unfortunately we just exhausted both of our remaining DP slots, questionably on both counts.

We could definitely use Jones. But Porter clearly doesn't think so, as he [wtf=] chose Will Johnson for the ASG [/wtf].

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Gedion Zelalem starting for Arsenal vs NY in 30 min on ESPN. The way Wenger has been so effusively playing along with the media covering Zelalem as a US prospect makes me think that he knows something.

We need a media event where he sits at a table with a Germany hat and a US hat in front of him and declares officially.

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Zelalem is good, bruh. The Fabregas comps aren't crazy.

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I caught everything up to the goal. Not a lot of touches, but he was comfy sliding around and seems defensively responsible.

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Tambourine Man wrote:he was comfy sliding around
This. The kind of small, fluid, off-ball movement that few American players do well. Bradley, Altidore, Dempsey and Donovan. Not at 17 though, that's for sure. He looked exactly like a classic Wenger Era Arsenal midfielder. Showed up in all the right spots for his teammates and made quick, smart decisions.

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trill wrote:
Tambourine Man wrote:he was comfy sliding around
This. The kind of small, fluid, off-ball movement that few American players do well. Bradley, Altidore, Dempsey and Donovan. Not at 17 though, that's for sure. He looked exactly like a classic Wenger Era Arsenal midfielder. Showed up in all the right spots for his teammates and made quick, smart decisions.

Looks like he could use a few pounds, but that should come in the next few years. CHI/Tottenham has ben a drag.

I'm guessing you saw that J. Green might not be loaned out?

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