Coronavirus

[Superorganism]

The sentiment is still the same. If I have sickness like the one you described (congestion, headache, sore throat, etc), and I have a good sleep and I wake up feeling better, should I have to take 5-10 days off work and get a COVID test? And pull my kids out of daycare?

That is ridiculous.

[cardinalkarp]

Starting Monday I had a scratchy throat and little nagging dry cough. My GF also felt like crap. I scheduled a PCR test for Tuesday afternoon just in case. By Tuesday night I had chills, fever and aches. I had CRAZY ASS fever dreams all night, too. But sometime around sunrise my fever broke and I was left with basically a moderate head cold.

Test results just came back +

Thank God for my vaccine.

I’ve got no problem w/ people having the sentiment “Thank God for my vaccine”, but I do find it pretty silly as those symptoms are exactly what omicron presents….vaccinated or not for pretty much everyone.

I do shake my head when people come out saying the healthcare worker told me….“I would have died if it were not for the vaccine”.

Well, we are averaging 1,847 deaths per day over the past 7 days from Omicron. Almost all of those 1,847 people per day dying are unvaccinated. Most of them would not die if they had chosen to get vaccinated.

So it makes a very real difference for a very real number of people. Every 2 days a 9/11 worth of unvaccinated people die.

I have serious questions about the way the US is tracking their data regarding unvaccinated/vaccinated deaths.

Caveat: This is NOT me saying that the vaccine doesn’t help w/ serious illness/death for those w/co-morbidities, it does….I just don’t believe it’s as lopsided as they would like for you to believe.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

The sentiment is still the same. If I have sickness like the one you described (congestion, headache, sore throat, etc), and I have a good sleep and I wake up feeling better, should I have to take 5-10 days off work and get a COVID test? And pull my kids out of daycare?

That is ridiculous.

Sentiment is not the same though; a case of the sniffles or a runny nose are not the same as being congested, headache and sore throat. One indicates an infection, and one does not. In the later, it would make sense to take a home test in the event you'll be around other people that are concerned about catching covid or high risk people. If you're not sick, the test is negative, it cost 15 minutes and nose swab. If you are positive, all previous comments about not going to work sick apply. Yes.

[Superorganism]

So for the rest of time, as it currently stands anyway, we are going to be treating any upper respiratory infection as if it’s omicron Covid. which we all know is not a big deal if you are vaccinated.

The vaccine is ubiquitous. Why is it necessary?

[Popeye_Card]

Curious as to what those questions are. While there are issues with a lot of how we collect COVID data, this one seems fairly cut and dry. Did the person die from COVID (Y/N)? Was the person vaccinated for COVID (Y/N)?

That said, when they give the total percentage of people who have died from COVID since day 1 that were unvaccinated, I agree that is disingenuous since we did not have a widescale vaccine program until 12-16 months into the pandemic. I am fine with making the cutoff basically since the start of the Delta wave - all adults had easy access to the vaccines by then.

[Popeye_Card]

So for the rest of time, as it currently stands anyway, we are going to be treating any upper respiratory infection as if it’s omicron Covid. which we all know is not a big deal if you are vaccinated.

The vaccine is ubiquitous. Why is it necessary?

I am comfortable if we reach a point soon in society that if you get sick with a contagious infection - COVID, flu, whatever - that could lead to death for a vulnerable section of the population, you should isolate yourself as much as feasible for a few days, and wear a mask when you do go out in public. In turn, employers should have policies that support workers that are self-isolating.

I know that is asking a lot of society and capitalism though.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

I guess I don't follow your point. Test if you have symptoms. Treat it like Covid if you test positive for Covid.

Regardless of vax/immunity/etc, undeniable hospitals are too stressed right now and cancelling surgeries left and right, delaying surgeries further. They need to do better. But, that's a different topic.

This topic of acting like its some new hardship to stay home when sick is weird though. Three years ago if I sent my kid to school with the flu, people would have been like, yo, wtf. Rightfully so. Now there's a fraction of people that would be like, eh, its just the sniffles go ahead.

[Superorganism]

Maybe free market hospitals should increase their capacity to perform procedures and deal with other demands “from the market.” Given how woefully incompetent they are, maybe a different way of doing things really is in order. It’s not like it had years to deal with this…

[Superorganism]

1800 people die from Omicron. The vast majority being unvaccinated. The vast majority likely having 1 foot in the grave, 1 foot on a banana peel, as well.

The vaccine is ubiquitous. Those people had a choice. Why are we letting Omicron influence ANYTHING in the day-to-day life for the average person?

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Maybe free market hospitals should increase their capacity to perform procedures and deal with other demands “from the market.” Given how woefully incompetent they are, maybe a different way of doing things really is in order. It’s not like it had years to deal with this…

I would agree with you on some aspects of this. Again, it's not a matter of adding another building and another 100 beds or whatever. It's staffing those beds, and current ones, that is the real issue. 2 years is a long time. But, so is med school, nursing school, etc. And, there is a current bidding war to attract the limited supply of medical staff required to treat covid patients.

That still doesn't mean it's okay for people to go out when infected.