Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

[TGantz]

I doubt the Cardinals are shopping Carlson right after benching him out of nowhere. TON is auditioning the next two weeks to prove he's healthy.

This is my gut instinct, as well.

Clearly Carlson is out of the loop though. He was in tears about being benched.

Mo paid for acting classes for Carlson.

[MrCrowesGarden]

I’ll try to lay this out as best as I can, but I know in the NBA, I’d rather have a rookie who’s slightly older than a player who’s been in the league for three years and hasn’t become more than a role player/EOB guy because the EOB guy has had three years of top coaching experience and is still maxing out at a certain level. Even though he’s younger, he is more seasoned and doesn’t have a ton to show for it.

That’s sort of how I feel about Dylan Carlson being “only 24.” Maybe there’s evidence that points otherwise.

[WAR God]

I’ll try to lay this out as best as I can, but I know in the NBA, I’d rather have a rookie who’s slightly older than a player who’s been in the league for three years and hasn’t become more than a role player/EOB guy because the EOB guy has had three years of top coaching experience and is still maxing out at a certain level. Even though he’s younger, he is more seasoned and doesn’t have a ton to show for it.

That’s sort of how I feel about Dylan Carlson being “only 24.” Maybe there’s evidence that points otherwise.

The batted ball stuff is alarming. Maybe his next club can develop the bat speed and strength. Keep the velocity from knocking the bat out of his hands.

[haltz]

I’ll try to lay this out as best as I can, but I know in the NBA, I’d rather have a rookie who’s slightly older than a player who’s been in the league for three years and hasn’t become more than a role player/EOB guy because the EOB guy has had three years of top coaching experience and is still maxing out at a certain level. Even though he’s younger, he is more seasoned and doesn’t have a ton to show for it.

That’s sort of how I feel about Dylan Carlson being “only 24.” Maybe there’s evidence that points otherwise.

The batted ball stuff is alarming. Maybe his next club can develop the bat speed and strength. Keep the velocity from knocking the bat out of his hands.

Yankee stadium is the answer

[AdmiralKird]

Carlson probably will never find his groove in St. Louis. The Front Office's way of giving him perennial status as "meat," whether its potential trade meat or meat the FO wants so bad they won't trade him, is messing with his head. These are professionals and this is part of the professional game, but Carlson doesn't seem well-equipped to process it.

The 2023 proposed Juan Soto trade is the dumbest thing I have ever seen by a semi-pro source. Writer Mark Powell needs to find Jesus.

[Famous Mortimer]

I must've missed Mo talking about contreras (again); from Bernie...

7. Uh-oh, here we go again. Mozeliak may be lining up a scapegoat. The same scapegoat, actually … Willson Contreras. You can’t make this junk up. When asked by the media about the catcher’s availability in trades, Mozeliak said this according to Post-Dispatch columnist Ben Frederickson: “I think we will table that until the offseason. Obviously when we look back at it in the short-term now, there are some things that need to change. Short view, it’s kind of nice what we are seeing out of (Ivan) Herrera right now. But ultimately when we start thinking about 2024 some of those things will have to be addressed in the offseason.”

This stuff requires a laugh track. If you needed more evidence that the Cardinals have experienced a collective brain drain on the baseball side, this is it. Why in the name of Tim McCarver did Mozeliak spend $87.5 million on Contreras when it was pretty much universal knowledge that Willson didn’t fit the prototype of what the Cardinals were accustomed to having at catcher? Did they not watch Contreras catch for the Cubs from 2016 through 2022? Did they not see his flaws? Why did they ignore the negatives and proceed to pay him the largest free-agent contract in franchise history for a player who wasn’t already a Cardinal? Weren’t the Cardinals aware of the obvious reservations that the Cubs had about Contreras?

This could work out. Both Contreras and Herrera can be used at DH and over the years we’ve seen plenty of two-catcher systems in the majors.

That said, Mozeliak’s untimely and intentionally vague dig at Contreras was just another reason why I question his judgment as he shifts into an unaccustomed “seller” mode.

This is crazy. They knew exactly what they were getting with him and, by and large, they got it. It feels like a meme - smiling Mo with the caption "sure am glad I'm not the idiot who signed Willson Contreras!"

[jagtrader]

Mozeliak is generally candid. This was him trying not to be candid without outright lying.

[Famous Mortimer]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/ ... neill.html

Is the outfield problem a chicken-and-egg scenario? Like, Carlson should be an everyday outfielder, but he needs to perform well enough to keep that job and perhaps hasn't been? But is the lack of regular playing time stopping him from achieving that?

[Fat_Bulldog]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/07/ ... neill.html

Is the outfield problem a chicken-and-egg scenario? Like, Carlson should be an everyday outfielder, but he needs to perform well enough to keep that job and perhaps hasn't been? But is the lack of regular playing time stopping him from achieving that?

YES

[Fat_Bulldog]

How bad is this team though? What if they had only lost half of the 21 saves they had blown? Or say, only 5 or 6 of them?