Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

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jagtrader wrote:
August 1 23, 1:33 pm
I agree that trading players like Flaherty, Hicks and DeJong, who have been largely a hindrance to the team’s success the past 2-3 seasons, is fun.
The last few days are pretty much the draft 2.0.

Yay, we have new minor leaguers!

So much better than winning a division!!!!!!

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dmarx114 wrote:
August 1 23, 1:39 pm
So much better than winning a division!!!!!!
Nobody said that. People can enjoy baseball how they want.

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haltz wrote:
August 1 23, 1:41 pm
dmarx114 wrote:
August 1 23, 1:39 pm
So much better than winning a division!!!!!!
Nobody said that. People can enjoy baseball how they want.
Actually, somebody said that.

And yes, people can enjoy baseball how they want.

And I can think a certain type of fan behavior is crazy.

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WAR God wrote:
August 1 23, 1:39 pm
GeddyWrox wrote:
August 1 23, 1:23 pm
WAR God wrote:
August 1 23, 12:29 pm
O’Neill
Carlson
Nootbaar

Those are the guys who can and should be playing outfield when they are on the field. Trading away one of those ensures that you have a bad outfielder on the field at all times.

I anticipate they stand pat.
Where do you put Walker then?
Walker, Gorman, Goldschmidt, Arenado get time at 1B, 3B, DH. Walker can also get spot starts in the corner outfield positions, depending on matchup.

There is something of a logjam.
You're not wrong.

The logjam is in the IF, not OF. You can't really not play Arenado or Goldschmidt at the corners unless you want to have one of them DH if Contreras is catching.

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dmarx114 wrote:
August 1 23, 1:42 pm
haltz wrote:
August 1 23, 1:41 pm
dmarx114 wrote:
August 1 23, 1:39 pm
So much better than winning a division!!!!!!
Nobody said that. People can enjoy baseball how they want.
Actually, somebody said that.

And yes, people can enjoy baseball how they want.

And I can think a certain type of fan behavior is crazy.
And you love to scold people for it and tell them they're fanning wrong.

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Going undefeated in the Sun Belt isn't the same as going undefeated in the SEC.

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dmarx114 wrote:
August 1 23, 1:39 pm
jagtrader wrote:
August 1 23, 1:33 pm
I agree that trading players like Flaherty, Hicks and DeJong, who have been largely a hindrance to the team’s success the past 2-3 seasons, is fun.
The last few days are pretty much the draft 2.0.

Yay, we have new minor leaguers!

So much better than winning a division!!!!!!
Who said it’s more fun than winning a division? (Hint: no one)

Given that the team is already really bad, It’s more fun to trade spare parts for prospects than to still be bad, but have less prospects.

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Are they gonna [expletive] up this Flaherty thing?

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WAR God wrote:
August 1 23, 1:39 pm
GeddyWrox wrote:
August 1 23, 1:23 pm
WAR God wrote:
August 1 23, 12:29 pm
O’Neill
Carlson
Nootbaar

Those are the guys who can and should be playing outfield when they are on the field. Trading away one of those ensures that you have a bad outfielder on the field at all times.

I anticipate they stand pat.
Where do you put Walker then?
Walker, Gorman, Goldschmidt, Arenado get time at 1B, 3B, DH. Walker can also get spot starts in the corner outfield positions, depending on matchup.

There is something of a logjam.
Agree there is a logjam. It's of Mo's creation.

I don't think it's good for young guys like Walker to bounce around position to position, and only starting 4 or 5 games a week. Walker and Gorman especially need a steady position, and to be in the lineup every day (excepting the occasional rest day).

If the club is as committed to Walker as they seem to be (rightfully)... they need to free up that logjam.

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