Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

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Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

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Socnorb11 wrote:
August 1 23, 6:15 pm
jagtrader wrote:
August 1 23, 6:10 pm
A different baseball ops person would’ve turned the overlapping position player talent into a competent pitching staff. The longer they wait the harder that gets.

Which GM was able to do that this week?
I took this to mean in the offseason. Which I would agree with. That powder is still dry as [expletive].

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NDark wrote:
August 1 23, 6:23 pm
Socnorb11 wrote:
August 1 23, 6:15 pm
jagtrader wrote:
August 1 23, 6:10 pm
A different baseball ops person would’ve turned the overlapping position player talent into a competent pitching staff. The longer they wait the harder that gets.

Which GM was able to do that this week?
I took this to mean in the offseason. Which I agree with. That powder is still dry as [expletive].
OK. That makes more sense.

I think we overvalue the overlapping position players though. Guys like Carlson and Donovan............most organizations already have that caliber of player in their system.

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NDark wrote:
August 1 23, 6:23 pm
Socnorb11 wrote:
August 1 23, 6:15 pm
jagtrader wrote:
August 1 23, 6:10 pm
A different baseball ops person would’ve turned the overlapping position player talent into a competent pitching staff. The longer they wait the harder that gets.

Which GM was able to do that this week?
I took this to mean in the offseason. Which I would agree with. That powder is still dry as [expletive].
It should’ve happened last offseason. O’Neill and Carlson are worth less today. So is Edman.

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phins wrote:
August 1 23, 6:00 pm
Why the Matz hate? He’s a very reasonable four.
He was pretty bad for a lot of this season, though.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
August 1 23, 6:25 pm
NDark wrote:
August 1 23, 6:23 pm
Socnorb11 wrote:
August 1 23, 6:15 pm
jagtrader wrote:
August 1 23, 6:10 pm
A different baseball ops person would’ve turned the overlapping position player talent into a competent pitching staff. The longer they wait the harder that gets.

Which GM was able to do that this week?
I took this to mean in the offseason. Which I agree with. That powder is still dry as [expletive].
OK. That makes more sense.

I think we overvalue the overlapping position players though. Guys like Carlson and Donovan............most organizations already have that caliber of player in their system.
How dare you say that about Brendan Donovan, and compare him to Carlson at the same time.

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Fair point Haltz.

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Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

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Famous Mortimer wrote:
August 1 23, 6:44 pm
phins wrote:
August 1 23, 6:00 pm
Why the Matz hate? He’s a very reasonable four.
He was pretty bad for a lot of this season, though.
Also recently injured. My somewhat hot take is that unfortunately I think he's the best starter in the organization right now and it's not all that close.

Lots of work to do.

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You can’t get a starting pitcher for Tommy Edman? The alternative is to play him out of position and make his contribution to the team less valuable.

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haltz wrote:
August 1 23, 7:04 pm
Famous Mortimer wrote:
August 1 23, 6:44 pm
phins wrote:
August 1 23, 6:00 pm
Why the Matz hate? He’s a very reasonable four.
He was pretty bad for a lot of this season, though.
Also recently injured. My somewhat hot take is that unfortunately I think he's the best starter in the organization right now and it's not all that close.

Lots of work to do.
I think Mikolas is better, but it’s close.

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