Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

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Radbird wrote:
February 4 25, 7:24 pm
Jocephus wrote:
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i assume i'll be hate watching the cardinals this year
Sadly, the Cardinals will be low on my list of things I’ll be hate watching this year.
ha yeah, thats probably true. id rather watch fun teams

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I don't see a purpose to signing a free agent during a rebuilding year. Just let the kids play.

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I can forgive not signing a single player if the plan really is a rebuild. But that would involve trading veterans for prospects to create a young base to build on in a year or two. We haven't done that either.

It's just more classic late Mo/Dewitt era muddling. Never going for it, but never restocking either.

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dmarx114 wrote:
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I don't see a purpose to signing a free agent during a rebuilding year. Just let the kids play.
To compete for future years, of course

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They're not letting the young pitchers play. They're blocked by a bunch of mediocre old guys. They're trading Arenado because he's unhappy. He's unhappy because the organization lied to him and wasted some of his career.

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The org didn’t hold up their end of the bargain. But neither did Arenado.

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“Why would my team try to get better?”

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
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“Why would my team try to get better?”
1. Good teams with high payrolls are profitable
2. bad teams with low payrolls are profitable
3. Mediocre teams with upper middle payrolls are not very profitable.

We've been in that third category by design for years now. Ownership is trying something new -- not category one. Too much risk and expense. We're trying a bastardized, slightly more expensive version of category three. Expensive enough to tell the fans we could maybe compete, but not really.

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heyzeus wrote:
February 5 25, 9:09 am
I can forgive not signing a single player if the plan really is a rebuild. But that would involve trading veterans for prospects to create a young base to build on in a year or two. We haven't done that either.

It's just more classic late Mo/Dewitt era muddling. Never going for it, but never restocking either.
I agree with this. Keeping Helsley seems insane to me.

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I mean it’s just a very glib rhetorical question to a really dumb premise. The poster in mind always preaches years of sustained success but can’t understand why you would sign a free agent.

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