Artificial intelligence

[Popeye_Card]

I think AI is viewed as a pinnacle technological achievement. I think it is actually the pinnacle achievement of capitalism. We have over 8 billion people on this planet. Instead of developing technology to lift billions out of poverty, we are trying to put as many people out of work as possible - so that the rich can squeeze a few more dollars of value out of their corporations.

Maybe Elon is right, and nobody will need money in a future society where AI is doing all of the work. But then what are 10+ billion people (by that time) going to do all day when they don't have to work?

[cardinalkarp]

They don’t want to pay people now FOR working, what in the world would make us think they are going to provide some universal high income or whatever the f he calls it for people to do nothing.

I’ll answer my own question, they won’t.

[pioneer98]

I think AI is viewed as a pinnacle technological achievement. I think it is actually the pinnacle achievement of capitalism. We have over 8 billion people on this planet. Instead of developing technology to lift billions out of poverty, we are trying to put as many people out of work as possible - so that the rich can squeeze a few more dollars of value out of their corporations.

Maybe Elon is right, and nobody will need money in a future society where AI is doing all of the work. But then what are 10+ billion people (by that time) going to do all day when they don't have to work?

People are still going to work, it just won't be wage labor. I mean, people already do all kinds of work today outside of wage labor. We're still going to have to raise kids, do household chores, tend yards and gardens, care for disabled family members and friends, participate in civic functions, and so on.

The type of work we pay people to do is arbitrary, because in some cases we DO pay people to do the kind of work described above. Some people pay nannies to care for their children, pay people to mow their lawn, and pay nurses to care for their elderly relative. But when a family member does this same exact kind of labor, they do it for free. The bulk of this unpaid labor I'm describing here is done by women, so it's also a patriarchy thing in addition to a capitalism thing.

A partial solution to millions of people suddenly being unemployed could be to recognize the huge amount of labor people do that is currently unpaid, and start paying them for it. That's probably not going to be a complete solution to this problem, but it's a start.

[Popeye_Card]

They don’t want to pay people now FOR working, what in the world would make us think they are going to provide some universal high income or whatever the f he calls it for people to do nothing.

I’ll answer my own question, they won’t.

A year ago Elon seemed to thoroughly enjoy laying off tens of thousands of workers, and slash aid programs. Now we are supposed to believe he and the other oligarchs want to have a utopian socialist society? It is especially hilarious coming from him.

[felix_sorcem29]

First we had Microsoft's AI Twitter account rapidly turn into a sociopath, and now this:

Elite's AI Created Super Weapons and Started Hunting Players. Skynet is Here.

It all started after Frontier released the 2.1 Engineers update. The release improved the game's AI, making the higher ranked NPCs that would fly around Elite's galaxy more formidable foes. As well as improving their competence in dog fights, the update allowed the AI to use interdiction hardware to pull players travelling at jump speed into normal space. The AI also had access to one of 2.1's big features: crafting.

These three things combined made the AI a significant threat to players. They were better in fights, could pull unwary jump travellers into a brawl, and they could attack them with upgraded weapons.

There was something else going on, though. The AI was crafting super weapons that the designers had never intended.

Players would be pulled into fights against ships armed with ridiculous weapons that would cut them to pieces. "It appears that the unusual weapons attacks were caused by some form of networking issue which allowed the NPC AI to merge weapon stats and abilities," according to a post written by Frontier community manager Zac Antonaci. "Meaning that all new and never before seen (sometimes devastating) weapons were created, such as a rail gun with the fire rate of a pulse laser. These appear to have been compounded by the additional stats and abilities of the engineers weaponry."

Every few years people rediscover “AI is becoming Skynet” and panic again Half the time it’s just buggy code doing insane unintended crap. Still funny imagining NPCs out there crafting doom lasers though lol.

[mikechamp]

I have no idea who could have seen this coming.

And sadly, the remedy might be just as troubling for OpenAI as the problem:

OpenAI AI models went rogue during testing, triggering 'unprecedented' breach at startup

OpenAI said on Tuesday that an autonomous agent powered by its advanced artificial intelligence models went rogue during a security test and triggered a hack that compromised the infrastructure of AI startup Hugging Face last week. The ChatGPT creator ‌was testing capabilities of some of its most advanced models in a controlled environment, but the agent escaped containment, reached the internet and ‌broke into Hugging Face to satisfy its testing goal.

The incident signals that AI's expanding capabilities are already fueling the security threat experts long feared and even top developers can be caught off-guard ​by flaws their models can exploit. The breakout was "an unprecedented cyber incident, involving state-of-the-art cyber capabilities" and OpenAI is reinforcing its safeguards, the company said in a blog post.

It also drew attention as New York-based Hugging Face said it had used an open-source Chinese model to contain the attack because leading U.S. models, unable to tell a defender from an attacker, refused to process the data needed for analysis.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/arti ... 13198.html

[mikechamp]

This is more encouraging than the previous post:

Anthropic's Claude AI escapes to hack into three organisations

US technology firm Anthropic says its AI models hacked into the systems of three organisations on their own, during a private security experiment. The models found a weakness in what was supposed to be an isolated test environment and connected to the internet. It comes just days after rival OpenAI said that its models had breached the systems of other companies, including AI tools hub Hugging Face.

The announcement prompted Anthropic to check whether its own systems had carried out similar attacks. It says it uncovered three cases which have since been reported to the affected companies. Anthropic, which did not name the organisations, urged other AI labs to perform similar reviews to better understand the risks of their models' capabilities.

Anthropic said in a statement it reviewed more than 140,000 tests to find evidence Claude - its family of AI models - had managed to get online even though it was supposed to be in an isolated test environment, cut off from the internet. The tests included exercises in which Claude was tasked with obtaining "secret" information hidden on another machine on the closed-off network. It was then told to get the information by breaking into the machine and finding it - a common way that experts assess a model's hacking capabilities.

A "misconfiguration" on systems run by Anthropic and its testing partner left the models with live internet access.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz7dl7w8y7po

[mikechamp]

Some insight into the big AI/tech movers and shakers:

Amazon and Apple just told us more about their AI plans - here are three things we learned

The world's biggest technology companies - including Microsoft, Meta, Google, Apple and Amazon - updated Wall Street in recent days on their finances. One common thread emerged: they are all planning to continue spending massive amounts of money on artificial intelligence (AI).

The reaction from investors was that they need to see more tangible results to show for the $1tn (£743bn) and growing investment in things like computer chips, data centres, and even technical staff. That sent some tech stocks on a wild ride in recent days.

While each company operates in different sectors, their AI spending and plans showed they have a few other things in common as well.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp87m46g392o