game thread 3.8.07 cards vs twins

Phyrkrakr · Post by **Phyrkrakr** » March 8 07, 2:36 pm

Cards win, btw, 2-1.

Jiminez came in, struck out two, and got a popup to end it.

haltz · Post by **haltz** » March 8 07, 2:37 pm

Catching up with gameday:

Bottom 8TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Brandon Roberts remains in the game as the left fielder.

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Trevor Plouffe remains in the game as the third baseman.

Bottom 8TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Pitcher Change: Jason Miller replaces Pat Neshek.

Bottom 8TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Offensive Substitution: Pinch hitter Ryan Ludwick replaces Chris Duncan.

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Ryan Ludwick doubles (1) on a fly ball to center fielder Denard Span. Ryan Ludwick advances to 3rd, on throwing error by center fielder Denard Span.

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Tagg Bozied doubles (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Eli Tintor. Ryan Ludwick scores.

Bottom 8TH B:0 S:0 O:1
Aaron Miles out on a sacrifice bunt, first baseman Tommy Watkins to second baseman Steven Tolleson. Tagg Bozied to 3rd.

Bottom 8TH B:0 S:0 O:2
Scott Spiezio grounds out to first baseman Tommy Watkins.

Bottom 8TH B:0 S:0 O:3
Preston Wilson grounds out to first baseman Tommy Watkins.

Top 9TH B:0 S:0 O:0
Pitcher Change: Kelvin Jimenez replaces Brian Falkenborg.

Top 9TH B:0 S:3 O:1
Eli Tintor strikes out swinging.

Top 9TH B:0 S:3 O:2
Steven Tolleson strikes out swinging.

Top 9TH B:0 S:0 O:3
Glenn Williams flies out to center fielder So Taguchi.

That's a wrap.

Secret Weapon · Post by **Secret Weapon** » March 8 07, 2:38 pm

who is Jimenez, he pitched a great 9th?

Phyrkrakr · Post by **Phyrkrakr** » March 8 07, 2:41 pm

whyhellothere wrote:who is Jimenez, he pitched a great 9th?

Kelvin Jimenez, probably going to start at AAA this year. He came over from the Rangers organization, where he's spent the last two years with their AAA affiliate. The word I heard was that he has great velocity, but no control. Seems to have tamed some of the wildness without losing much speed, so he could be the dark horse to make the pen if Kinney is shut down long term.

haltz · Post by **haltz** » March 8 07, 2:52 pm

cardinalkarp wrote:
haltz wrote:
cardinalkarp wrote:My wife can't stand Ray King for some reason. She nicknamed him "Fat Man" King.
I know a few people that had personal experiences with him that weren't so pleasant. And a bunch more that just don't like the guy. I didn't really understand why, he was fairly effective during his Cardinals stint, especially 2004.

Anyway, we always just called him Burger King.
In 04 he was good, in 05 when my wife started getting into baseball he pretty much sucked.

Well, he wasn't outstanding, but I don't remember him being terrible. Looking at some of his numbers it looks like he was significantly lucky, and shouldn't have pitched to a RH hitter that year. But, his ERA was 3.38 in 77 appearances. That's not so bad that it justifies the amount of disgust with him that I've seen from Joe Sixpack -- who isn't quoting his FIP or platoon splits when he tells me how much he hates Ray King. Of course, I could be forgetting or missing something or maybe I've come across an inordinate amount of Ray King haters.

Secret Weapon · Post by **Secret Weapon** » March 8 07, 3:13 pm

i think down the stretch in 05 he was pretty brutal, so thats what most people remember. he seemed to let a lot of inherited runners to score too, which doesn't show up in the ERA.

sighyoung · Post by **sighyoung** » March 8 07, 3:20 pm

whyhellothere wrote:i think down the stretch in 05 he was pretty brutal, so thats what most people remember. he seemed to let a lot of inherited runners to score too, which doesn't show up in the ERA.

I could be wrong, but I thought his ERA rose at the end of '04, too, but he was solid earlier in the year.

rs232 · Post by **rs232** » March 8 07, 3:41 pm

whyhellothere wrote:i think down the stretch in 05 he was pretty brutal, so thats what most people remember. he seemed to let a lot of inherited runners to score too, which doesn't show up in the ERA.

Seems to me his dad was really sick toward the end of 05 and there was speculation this led to his downturn. Then Tony benched him and he lipped off. The media reported they got everything resolved in the offseason and he was traded shortly thereafter.

Borrowing from the Burger King slogan - Tony can have it his way.

ThatGuy · Post by **ThatGuy** » March 8 07, 4:05 pm

I remember going to the second-to-last (or was it third-to-last?) game at old Busch Stadium in late September of 2005. The Cards were playing the Reds, and Albert hit his 200th career home run and 40th of the year (it was a grand salami). Ray King came out and pitched towards the end of the game, and I don't think he recorded a single out. He inherited a baserunner, but IIRC he let a few runs score before he got yanked. The crowd didn't seem too hesitant to boo him, to say the least.

Some of the people I heard talking that night were really vocal about their "hatred" of him. It wasn't pretty.