Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus (Update: Finalized!)

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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus (Update: Both pass physicals)

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Explain something to me. How in the world is moving from field turf to a hard dirt infield going to help Glaus' foot situation?

Reporters keep bringing this up, but I don't get it. I've played on field turf. It's nice stuff. Soft. Not really all that hard on the feet. I've played on dirt infields (though not MLB quality ones). They're not as forgiving as field turf, imo.

It's not like he's moving to the OF or anything. In fact, he'll pretty much never touch the grass at StL, except for the occassional pop up, and jogging to and from the dugout.

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indyredbird wrote:Does it seem like the Cards have alot of communication issues? How many free agents have the Cards loss because of the players not hearing of an offer (Polanco, Benes) Others have complained about communication (Eckstein, Woody Williams)

If there was a big rift between Rolen and TLR, why didn't either GM hold a meeting to hash it out. Funny on how 3 of the Cards greatest fielders (Rolen, Ozzie, Edmonds) have a problem with TLR.
Seems even more odd in this age of mass communication.

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Fat Strat wrote:Explain something to me. How in the world is moving from field turf to a hard dirt infield going to help Glaus' foot situation?

Reporters keep bringing this up, but I don't get it. I've played on field turf. It's nice stuff. Soft. Not really all that hard on the feet. I've played on dirt infields (though not MLB quality ones). They're not as forgiving as field turf, imo.

It's not like he's moving to the OF or anything. In fact, he'll pretty much never touch the grass at StL, except for the occassional pop up, and jogging to and from the dugout.

Sounds like an excuse Glaus is giving for his body breaking down from Steroid use to me.

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Fat Strat wrote:Explain something to me. How in the world is moving from field turf to a hard dirt infield going to help Glaus' foot situation?

Reporters keep bringing this up, but I don't get it. I've played on field turf. It's nice stuff. Soft. Not really all that hard on the feet. I've played on dirt infields (though not MLB quality ones). They're not as forgiving as field turf, imo.

It's not like he's moving to the OF or anything. In fact, he'll pretty much never touch the grass at StL, except for the occassional pop up, and jogging to and from the dugout.
I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's the impact of your steps that makes a big difference..

The hard surface at Busch doesn't cushion the impact like the turf does...and the cushiony impact is harder on your knees and feet..

That's my guess but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with that

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jim wrote:
planet pujolsian wrote:What does this whole sentence mean to anyway, i.e. what are they trying to say about Albert and why would Rolen chafe?
The Cardinals - lavished with uncritical affection from their happy, middle-class, corn-fed, Midwestern fan base and graced to be playing in a one-newspaper town with a deep tradition of baseball excellence - had a cynical group of veterans personified by their distrustful superstar, Albert Pujols. It's possible that Rolen chafed under all that
Don't waste your time trying to understand it. It not understandable. Basically it would be like me writing:

The widget freeze cup factory train yard yeller' smurh walkenbach.

I mean, don't bother.
I lol'd.

And what it means is the same as if I wrote this about Glaus coming over:

"The Blue Jays - starved for attention from their maple syrup chugging, hockey-addled fans - are perennial runners up to the runner up in the East and are saddled with a manager who fights with his own players. It's no wonder Glaus wanted to leave the frozen north and the blacktop infield of the Skydome to move to a city where baseball is still appreciated."

Of course, all of my slights were based in fact, not just in north-of-the-border condescension and ignorance.

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indyredbird wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:Explain something to me. How in the world is moving from field turf to a hard dirt infield going to help Glaus' foot situation?

Reporters keep bringing this up, but I don't get it. I've played on field turf. It's nice stuff. Soft. Not really all that hard on the feet. I've played on dirt infields (though not MLB quality ones). They're not as forgiving as field turf, imo.

It's not like he's moving to the OF or anything. In fact, he'll pretty much never touch the grass at StL, except for the occassional pop up, and jogging to and from the dugout.

Sounds like an excuse Glaus is giving for his body breaking down from Steroid use to me.
??

Foot surgery = body breaking down :?

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indyredbird wrote:Does it seem like the Cards have alot of communication issues? How many free agents have the Cards loss because of the players not hearing of an offer (Polanco, Benes) Others have complained about communication (Eckstein, Woody Williams)

If there was a big rift between Rolen and TLR, why didn't either GM hold a meeting to hash it out. Funny on how 3 of the Cards greatest fielders (Rolen, Ozzie, Edmonds) have a problem with TLR.

I really wish TLR would have left with Walt.
Where are these "Edmonds had a problem with TLR" comments coming from? I don't remember Jimmy ever being pissed at the manager. My understanding was to the contrary.

Oh, and Polanco's communication problem was entirely his agent's fault. He fired the guy over it, in fact.

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I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's the impact of your steps that makes a big difference..

The hard surface at Busch doesn't cushion the impact like the turf does...and the cushiony impact is harder on your knees and feet..

That's my guess but I'm pretty sure it has something to do with that
Wouldn't the hard surface put more stress on your feet, knees, etc.?

i.e. landing on a pillow is a lot softer on your body than landing on dirt.

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cardinalkarp wrote:
indyredbird wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:Explain something to me. How in the world is moving from field turf to a hard dirt infield going to help Glaus' foot situation?

Reporters keep bringing this up, but I don't get it. I've played on field turf. It's nice stuff. Soft. Not really all that hard on the feet. I've played on dirt infields (though not MLB quality ones). They're not as forgiving as field turf, imo.

It's not like he's moving to the OF or anything. In fact, he'll pretty much never touch the grass at StL, except for the occassional pop up, and jogging to and from the dugout.

Sounds like an excuse Glaus is giving for his body breaking down from Steroid use to me.
??

Foot surgery = body breaking down :?
I believe Glaus has had his own shoulder issues, and his feet with tendon issues. I guess I am just pissed because Rolen was my fave.

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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus (Update: Both pass physicals)

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indyredbird wrote:
cardinalkarp wrote:
indyredbird wrote:
Fat Strat wrote:Explain something to me. How in the world is moving from field turf to a hard dirt infield going to help Glaus' foot situation?

Reporters keep bringing this up, but I don't get it. I've played on field turf. It's nice stuff. Soft. Not really all that hard on the feet. I've played on dirt infields (though not MLB quality ones). They're not as forgiving as field turf, imo.

It's not like he's moving to the OF or anything. In fact, he'll pretty much never touch the grass at StL, except for the occassional pop up, and jogging to and from the dugout.

Sounds like an excuse Glaus is giving for his body breaking down from Steroid use to me.
??

Foot surgery = body breaking down :?
I believe Glaus has had his own shoulder issues, and his feet with tendon issues. I guess I am just pissed because Rolen was my fave.
Rolen's the one that wanted out, he got what he wanted.

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