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The Democrats are so scared of upsetting the teachers unions that nothing is going to change,they will fight any real reform in the way education is run in this country.

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Hudler wrote:The Democrats are so scared of upsetting the teachers unions that nothing is going to change,they will fight any real reform in the way education is run in this country.
Yet some believe Palin can successfully get creationism taught in schools.

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obucard wrote:
Hudler wrote:The Democrats are so scared of upsetting the teachers unions that nothing is going to change,they will fight any real reform in the way education is run in this country.
Yet some believe Palin can successfully get creationism taught in schools.
She's not even trying to push that on schools,she wants schools to have the choice. I don't think schools should have to teach it but if a school district wants to offer it as an alternative I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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Hudler wrote:McCain SUPPORTS gun locks being sold with guns and wants stronger laws on gun shows.
I found that out in the first 2 sites I checked in a search,who's telling things that aren't true?
That's crap. OntheIssues.com has the exact opposite of that opinion up. Just an example of how nobody can peg McCain's issue down. Is he for or against Bush's tax cuts? For or against immigration reform? For or against gun locks? Who knows?
BW23 wrote:I'm against pumping more money into the Dept of Ed.
...against pumping more money into the Dpt of Ed? Wow. That's a wonderful thing to say. Screw properly funding the future of children.
I'm against most forms of welfare (particularly making those who work hard pay for those who don't). Opportunities are there for almost anyone that wants it.
Yeah, you're right. A mother of 2 young children who is on the brink of having her house foreclosed on and can't find a job because it'd mean leaving her kids at home alone doesn't deserve government handouts. Do you know how many cases there are LIKE that? "Screw people who need help. Let them pull themselves up by their own boot straps." And who is the elitist party?
Giving criminals a second chance? We're talking about the death penalty. Do you mean a second chance to kill? Let's kill babies but let the worst of the worst have "a second chance"? Nah. Not my style.
Once again, here comes the abortion issue. Keep reverting to that every time something comes up. "I'm pro-life, except for people who do bad things. [expletive] them, they can die." You're not pro-life. You're pro-baby-life. Typical mind frame "Before you're born, protect your life. After your born, [expletive] your welfare, screw you if you don't make more than 250k and sorry, you want a superior education? Better get some vouchers, there, kid!
With all of the "problems" Obama wants to "fix", where's that money coming from? Just the rich? I doubt it. And if so, that's stupid, too.
Under John McCain's tax plan, people making 226,000 to 603,000, 603,000 to 2.87 million and 2.87 million and up will get a combined tax cut of 322,000 dollars. With those making over 2.87 million getting an average cut of 269,000 dollars.

Obama wants to raise the taxes of anyone making 603,000 to 2.87 by 8% and anyone making over 2.87 million by 11.5%

That's not gonna bring in a TON of revenue?
Obama favors gun manufactures being sued. McCain doesn't. That's part of the gun control problem for me, but this is a very small issue on my list.
Personal responsibility for women who get pregnant, but not the gun manufactures who sell their guns to people who sell them to murderers.

If I sold a gun to a person and they sold it to a man who went out and killed 6 people, I'd feel responsible. I guess the gun manufactures aren't supposed to.

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Hudler wrote:
obucard wrote:
Hudler wrote:The Democrats are so scared of upsetting the teachers unions that nothing is going to change,they will fight any real reform in the way education is run in this country.
Yet some believe Palin can successfully get creationism taught in schools.
She's not even trying to push that on schools,she wants schools to have the choice. I don't think schools should have to teach it but if a school district wants to offer it as an alternative I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Why would you not have a problem with that? Creationism needs to stay out of non-religious schools. Christian schools? Sure. Religious institutions? Fine. Public schools? No thanks.

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PujolJunkie wrote:
Hudler wrote:
obucard wrote:
Hudler wrote:The Democrats are so scared of upsetting the teachers unions that nothing is going to change,they will fight any real reform in the way education is run in this country.
Yet some believe Palin can successfully get creationism taught in schools.
She's not even trying to push that on schools,she wants schools to have the choice. I don't think schools should have to teach it but if a school district wants to offer it as an alternative I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Why would you not have a problem with that? Creationism needs to stay out of non-religious schools. Christian schools? Sure. Religious institutions? Fine. Public schools? No thanks.
If you don't pay taxes to a certain school district,why should you have a say what they teach? As lond as they're not teaching kids to make bombs or how to hate people that are different,it's only that district's business.

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Look, I'm on the McCain/Palin bandwagon, and have a pretty good opinion of Palin. However, let me interject to say, Tina Fey was awesome and hilarious as Palin tonight. Did anybody else see that?

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07come11 wrote:Look, I'm on the McCain/Palin bandwagon, and have a pretty good opinion of Palin. However, let me interject to say, Tina Fey was awesome and hilarious as Palin tonight. Did anybody else see that?
i missed it but really wanted to see it.

hope i can find it online soon

any other highlights?

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PujolJunkie wrote:
Hudler wrote:McCain SUPPORTS gun locks being sold with guns and wants stronger laws on gun shows.
I found that out in the first 2 sites I checked in a search,who's telling things that aren't true?
That's crap. OntheIssues.com has the exact opposite of that opinion up. Just an example of how nobody can peg McCain's issue down. Is he for or against Bush's tax cuts? For or against immigration reform? For or against gun locks? Who knows?
BW23 wrote:I'm against pumping more money into the Dept of Ed.
...against pumping more money into the Dpt of Ed? Wow. That's a wonderful thing to say. Screw properly funding the future of children.
I'm against most forms of welfare (particularly making those who work hard pay for those who don't). Opportunities are there for almost anyone that wants it.
Yeah, you're right. A mother of 2 young children who is on the brink of having her house foreclosed on and can't find a job because it'd mean leaving her kids at home alone doesn't deserve government handouts. Do you know how many cases there are LIKE that? "Screw people who need help. Let them pull themselves up by their own boot straps." And who is the elitist party?
Giving criminals a second chance? We're talking about the death penalty. Do you mean a second chance to kill? Let's kill babies but let the worst of the worst have "a second chance"? Nah. Not my style.
Once again, here comes the abortion issue. Keep reverting to that every time something comes up. "I'm pro-life, except for people who do bad things. [expletive] them, they can die." You're not pro-life. You're pro-baby-life. Typical mind frame "Before you're born, protect your life. After your born, [expletive] your welfare, screw you if you don't make more than 250k and sorry, you want a superior education? Better get some vouchers, there, kid!
With all of the "problems" Obama wants to "fix", where's that money coming from? Just the rich? I doubt it. And if so, that's stupid, too.
Under John McCain's tax plan, people making 226,000 to 603,000, 603,000 to 2.87 million and 2.87 million and up will get a combined tax cut of 322,000 dollars. With those making over 2.87 million getting an average cut of 269,000 dollars.

Obama wants to raise the taxes of anyone making 603,000 to 2.87 by 8% and anyone making over 2.87 million by 11.5%

That's not gonna bring in a TON of revenue?
Obama favors gun manufactures being sued. McCain doesn't. That's part of the gun control problem for me, but this is a very small issue on my list.
Personal responsibility for women who get pregnant, but not the gun manufactures who sell their guns to people who sell them to murderers.

If I sold a gun to a person and they sold it to a man who went out and killed 6 people, I'd feel responsible. I guess the gun manufactures aren't supposed to.
And you called me out about how I was posting here? Truly funny. You don't deserve a response. What a waste of time.

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If you get rid of the guns then knife violence will go through the roof,it's an epidemic in England now. People are going to kill people,it's a fact of life. Don't try taking away my means of defending myself,because we all know that Democrats want nothing more than to get all the guns.

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