Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[jim]

Actually, it'd be really scary if we elected leaders from a party that embraced someone who said that Katrina was payback for homosexuality. Or that embraced someone who chased a woman out of a village because she was a "demon." Or embraced someone that believes in Zionism.

Good thing we've never done those, eh?

So you support Obama's "religious" views? You think it's okay what his church stands for?

I absolutely do support it, with every fabric of my being I do.

[Richie Allen]

Would you have gone to a different church if this new one welcomed you and told you they will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the black enemy? That they would destroy those who held them back from these ideals "by any means necessary"? And unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love?

You're losing it BW. And you really want us to believe that you never tune in to Rush Limbaugh?

[jim]

What the hell are you guys talking about?

[BW23]

I'm losing it? How so? Seriously. I shouldn't care about the beliefs his church was built on...a church he spent 20 years in, got married in and had his kids baptized in? A church that has clearly helped shape him?

I don't have an opportunity to listen to the radio during the work day. Sorry. I've probably heard less than an hour of Rush for all of 2008 put together.

[jim]

I'm losing it? How so? Seriously. I shouldn't care about the beliefs his church was built on...a church he spent 20 years in, got married in and had his kids baptized in? A church that has clearly helped shape him?

I don't have an opportunity to listen to the radio during the work day. Sorry. I've probably heard less than an hour of Rush for all of 2008 put together.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Why does it matter again?

[JCShutout]

BW, are you referring to Obama's pastor, and mistrust of the government, and believing the government invented AIDS ot harm african americans?

Remember, this is the government that didn't have a problem with the Tuskegee experiment until it was found out. http://www.tuskegee.edu/Global/Story.asp?s=1207586 (among other sources which can easily be found on google)

There was a nice quote on that site which says essentially what I was going to type:

In 1990, a survey found that 10 percent of African Americans believed that the U.S. government created AIDS as a plot to exterminate blacks, and another 20 percent could not rule out the possibility that this might be true. As preposterous and paranoid as this may sound, at one time the Tuskegee experiment must have seemed equally farfetched.

Who could imagine the government, all the way up to the Surgeon General of the United States, deliberately allowing a group of its citizens to die from a terrible disease for the sake of an ill-conceived experiment? In light of this and many other shameful episodes in our history, African Americans' widespread mistrust of the government and white society in general should not be a surprise to anyone.

[PujolJunkie]

I'm losing it? How so? Seriously. I shouldn't care about the beliefs his church was built on...a church he spent 20 years in, got married in and had his kids baptized in? A church that has clearly helped shape him?

I don't have an opportunity to listen to the radio during the work day. Sorry. I've probably heard less than an hour of Rush for all of 2008 put together.

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Crazy black people, I tell you.

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[BW23]

So you support Obama's "religious" views? You think it's okay what his church stands for?

Okay, I'll bite. It's obvious you're dying to tell us. What does Obama's former church "stand for"?

And while you're at it, tell us how it differs from other black churches that you're aware of.

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I work with a black minister. The church he preaches at believes in worshiping God and following the Bible. He disagrees with what Trinity does. Strongly.

And I'd say that most of them follow, at least mostly, the denomination they are. I also know people that grew up in black churches that left because the church didn't follow the Bible like they would have preferred, but it wasn't anything radical or hate-based.

[TimeForGuinness]

I'm losing it? How so? Seriously. I shouldn't care about the beliefs his church was built on...a church he spent 20 years in, got married in and had his kids baptized in? A church that has clearly helped shape him?

Do people think that church has that big of an impact on their lives? I always thought it was a place to learn and reflect...not a brainwashing institute...maybe I'm wrong though.

[haltz]

Will you just come out and say it? Village witches, and sailing around in a boat with a bunch of animals for that matter sounds wacky to me. What does that all mean?

I'm leaning towards a third party candidate anyway: