Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[cards2468]

Hmmph. I've gone twice to early vote, and the line has been out the door both times. Indiana set early voting records on the first day.

That's a very good sign for Obama.

And it's like that in every state that has early voting.

Which has me worried. Kentucky doesn't have early voting. What are lines going to be like for all of us who have to vote in one day?!

I voted already in Kentucky. (Voted absentee) You have to fill out a paper stating where you will be on election day (St. Louis for me)

[jim]

I don't think he's a savior, but I think there are many that do.

And yeah, I think the popularity of Christ is probably at an all-time low right now, and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama was more popular.

Last I heard, less than 20% of Americans go to church. I bet more than 20% of Americans love Obama.

So since over 20% of Americans love McCain is it ok if we brush him with that same broad stroke?

Out of curiosity, how many people have you talked to that stated that Obama was their savior?

I doubt if 20% love McCain. I still say the large majority of his supporters is because of who he isn't compared to who he actually is.

Just about every Obama supporter I've talked to thinks he'll save them from one thing or another....whether the bad economic times or war or whatever. I don't mean savior as in saving their life from an eternal standpoint. Only one can do that. But my gosh, his campaign is based on two words....hope and change. Anyone that clings to those words must see him as some type of savior.

Well, I don't know anyone clinging to the words hope and change. His campaign is based on much more than that. People that I know that support Obama seem to be support him because of this - http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

To me, the only people that are clinging to the words hope and change are people like yourself. You fail to recognize little if any of his ideas simply because it's a D next to his name instead of an R.

I fail to recognize any of his ideas because of what they are. I'm not someone who doesn't understand the issues like so many voters. Some of these voters should be given a test to see if they even have a clue who they're voting for.

And I don't think any republicans are clinging to hope or change with Obama. But I see it every time he's on TV at some rally or any time I see a sign of support about him.

Sure they are...

And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities--and we have to take that into account--as well as his substance--he has both style and substance--he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president. I think he is a transformational figure. He is a new generation coming into the world--onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I'll be voting for Senator Barack Obama....

He's not the only one, they are coming over in droves.

[cards2468]

I don't think he's a savior, but I think there are many that do.

And yeah, I think the popularity of Christ is probably at an all-time low right now, and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama was more popular.

Last I heard, less than 20% of Americans go to church. I bet more than 20% of Americans love Obama.

So since over 20% of Americans love McCain is it ok if we brush him with that same broad stroke?

Out of curiosity, how many people have you talked to that stated that Obama was their savior?

I doubt if 20% love McCain. I still say the large majority of his supporters is because of who he isn't compared to who he actually is.

Just about every Obama supporter I've talked to thinks he'll save them from one thing or another....whether the bad economic times or war or whatever. I don't mean savior as in saving their life from an eternal standpoint. Only one can do that. But my gosh, his campaign is based on two words....hope and change. Anyone that clings to those words must see him as some type of savior.

Well, I don't know anyone clinging to the words hope and change. His campaign is based on much more than that. People that I know that support Obama seem to be support him because of this - http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

To me, the only people that are clinging to the words hope and change are people like yourself. You fail to recognize little if any of his ideas simply because it's a D next to his name instead of an R.

I fail to recognize any of his ideas because of what they are. I'm not someone who doesn't understand the issues like so many voters. Some of these voters should be given a test to see if they even have a clue who they're voting for.

And I don't think any republicans are clinging to hope or change with Obama. But I see it every time he's on TV at some rally or any time I see a sign of support about him.

Sure they are...

And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities--and we have to take that into account--as well as his substance--he has both style and substance--he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president. I think he is a transformational figure. He is a new generation coming into the world--onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I'll be voting for Senator Barack Obama....

He's not the only one, they are coming over in droves.

What a [expletive] reason to vote for somebody

[UK]

I don't think he's a savior, but I think there are many that do.

And yeah, I think the popularity of Christ is probably at an all-time low right now, and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama was more popular.

Last I heard, less than 20% of Americans go to church. I bet more than 20% of Americans love Obama.

So since over 20% of Americans love McCain is it ok if we brush him with that same broad stroke?

Out of curiosity, how many people have you talked to that stated that Obama was their savior?

I doubt if 20% love McCain. I still say the large majority of his supporters is because of who he isn't compared to who he actually is.

Just about every Obama supporter I've talked to thinks he'll save them from one thing or another....whether the bad economic times or war or whatever. I don't mean savior as in saving their life from an eternal standpoint. Only one can do that. But my gosh, his campaign is based on two words....hope and change. Anyone that clings to those words must see him as some type of savior.

Well, I don't know anyone clinging to the words hope and change. His campaign is based on much more than that. People that I know that support Obama seem to be support him because of this - http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

To me, the only people that are clinging to the words hope and change are people like yourself. You fail to recognize little if any of his ideas simply because it's a D next to his name instead of an R.

I fail to recognize any of his ideas because of what they are. I'm not someone who doesn't understand the issues like so many voters. Some of these voters should be given a test to see if they even have a clue who they're voting for.

And I don't think any republicans are clinging to hope or change with Obama. But I see it every time he's on TV at some rally or any time I see a sign of support about him.

Sure they are...

And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities--and we have to take that into account--as well as his substance--he has both style and substance--he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president. I think he is a transformational figure. He is a new generation coming into the world--onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I'll be voting for Senator Barack Obama....

He's not the only one, they are coming over in droves.

What a [expletive] reason to vote for somebody

I don't see anything wrong in Powell's statement, he speaks of style and substance.

[jim]

I don't think he's a savior, but I think there are many that do.

And yeah, I think the popularity of Christ is probably at an all-time low right now, and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama was more popular.

Last I heard, less than 20% of Americans go to church. I bet more than 20% of Americans love Obama.

So since over 20% of Americans love McCain is it ok if we brush him with that same broad stroke?

Out of curiosity, how many people have you talked to that stated that Obama was their savior?

I doubt if 20% love McCain. I still say the large majority of his supporters is because of who he isn't compared to who he actually is.

Just about every Obama supporter I've talked to thinks he'll save them from one thing or another....whether the bad economic times or war or whatever. I don't mean savior as in saving their life from an eternal standpoint. Only one can do that. But my gosh, his campaign is based on two words....hope and change. Anyone that clings to those words must see him as some type of savior.

Well, I don't know anyone clinging to the words hope and change. His campaign is based on much more than that. People that I know that support Obama seem to be support him because of this - http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

To me, the only people that are clinging to the words hope and change are people like yourself. You fail to recognize little if any of his ideas simply because it's a D next to his name instead of an R.

I fail to recognize any of his ideas because of what they are. I'm not someone who doesn't understand the issues like so many voters. Some of these voters should be given a test to see if they even have a clue who they're voting for.

And I don't think any republicans are clinging to hope or change with Obama. But I see it every time he's on TV at some rally or any time I see a sign of support about him.

Sure they are...

And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities--and we have to take that into account--as well as his substance--he has both style and substance--he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president. I think he is a transformational figure. He is a new generation coming into the world--onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I'll be voting for Senator Barack Obama....

He's not the only one, they are coming over in droves.

What a [expletive] reason to vote for somebody

Did you read/hear the entire episode? This was the very end, there was plenty of other reasons. And the ability to inspire is absolutely a legitimate consideration in a presidential candidate.

Here is the entire transcript if you are interested, which I suspect you are not...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... s=388x5842

[jim]

I fail to recognize any of his ideas because of what they are. I'm not someone who doesn't understand the issues like so many voters. Some of these voters should be given a test to see if they even have a clue who they're voting for.

So does this lady pass or fail that test of yours...

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[sighyoung]

I don't think he's a savior, but I think there are many that do.

And yeah, I think the popularity of Christ is probably at an all-time low right now, and it wouldn't surprise me if Obama was more popular.

Last I heard, less than 20% of Americans go to church. I bet more than 20% of Americans love Obama.

So since over 20% of Americans love McCain is it ok if we brush him with that same broad stroke?

Out of curiosity, how many people have you talked to that stated that Obama was their savior?

I doubt if 20% love McCain. I still say the large majority of his supporters is because of who he isn't compared to who he actually is.

Just about every Obama supporter I've talked to thinks he'll save them from one thing or another....whether the bad economic times or war or whatever. I don't mean savior as in saving their life from an eternal standpoint. Only one can do that. But my gosh, his campaign is based on two words....hope and change. Anyone that clings to those words must see him as some type of savior.

Well, I don't know anyone clinging to the words hope and change. His campaign is based on much more than that. People that I know that support Obama seem to be support him because of this - http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

To me, the only people that are clinging to the words hope and change are people like yourself. You fail to recognize little if any of his ideas simply because it's a D next to his name instead of an R.

I fail to recognize any of his ideas because of what they are. I'm not someone who doesn't understand the issues like so many voters. Some of these voters should be given a test to see if they even have a clue who they're voting for.

And I don't think any republicans are clinging to hope or change with Obama. But I see it every time he's on TV at some rally or any time I see a sign of support about him.

Sure they are...

And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities--and we have to take that into account--as well as his substance--he has both style and substance--he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president. I think he is a transformational figure. He is a new generation coming into the world--onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I'll be voting for Senator Barack Obama....

He's not the only one, they are coming over in droves.

What a [expletive] reason to vote for somebody

Did you read/hear the entire episode? This was the very end, there was plenty of other reasons. And the ability to inspire is absolutely a legitimate consideration in a presidential candidate.

Here is the entire transcript if you are interested, which I suspect you are not...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... s=388x5842

In that specific paragraph, Powell is alluding to Aristotle's ideas about good political leadership using rhetoric to persuade and build coalitions.

[cards2468]

Did you read/hear the entire episode? This was the very end, there was plenty of other reasons. And the ability to inspire is absolutely a legitimate consideration in a presidential candidate.

Here is the entire transcript if you are interested, which I suspect you are not...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... s=388x5842

Voting for somebody because they make you feel good about yourself is completely stupid. I want a leader, not a motivational speaker.

I just got back from SLU's business school to listen to presentations from the heads of the departments explaining the differences economically between McCain's plan and Obama's plan. The entire time I couldn't stop thinking about how devastating he's going to be to my dad's small business, and contrary to popular belief, business owners DO NOT make much money. I'm paying for school myself with scholarships, grants, and loans and paying for housing and food with multiple jobs I work, so I definitely see it, and with the way things are going, he's on the verge of having to shut down his plant in Indiana where essentially everybody in the town works at.

[Arthur Dent]

The entire time I couldn't stop thinking about how devastating he's going to be to my dad's small business.

How is that?

[jim]

Did you read/hear the entire episode? This was the very end, there was plenty of other reasons. And the ability to inspire is absolutely a legitimate consideration in a presidential candidate.

Here is the entire transcript if you are interested, which I suspect you are not...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... s=388x5842

Voting for somebody because they make you feel good about yourself is completely stupid. I want a leader, not a motivational speaker.

I just got back from SLU's business school to listen to presentations from the heads of the departments explaining the differences economically between McCain's plan and Obama's plan. The entire time I couldn't stop thinking about how devastating he's going to be to my dad's small business, and contrary to popular belief, business owners DO NOT make much money. I'm paying for school myself with scholarships, grants, and loans and paying for housing and food with multiple jobs I work, so I definitely see it, and with the way things are going, he's on the verge of having to shut down his plant in Indiana where essentially everybody in the town works at.

First off I hope things turn for your dad. Times are definitely tough..

Do you really think that General Colin Powell is basing his vote on the fact that he thinks Obama is a good speaker? The guy could have made a serious run for President himself, and in fact I wish he would have taken a shot. He's not a superficial person

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Anchorage newspaper endorses Obama.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... t=1&f=1102