Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[Popeye_Card]

I'm voting against Cotton Eye Joe.

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[ghostrunner]

Does anyone have more info about this Employee Free Choice Act? I'm not sure I like the sound of it, but I'm not very familiar with how unions work. It looks like one of those bills where the title means the opposite of what it says.

http://townhall.com/columnists/DonaldLa ... et_ballots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_F ... s.27_Views

This part of the Wiki article is interesting:

In 2007, McCain and 27 other Republican Senators supported an opposition bill, The Secret Ballot Protection Act (S. 1312) which would eliminate the use of the currently optional card check procedure. In 1947, during the beginning of the Red Scare, a similar proposal to eliminate the use of cards, was rejected in conference in the House of Representatives (H. R. Conf. Rep. No. 510, 80th Cong., 1st Sess., 41 (1947))[22]
Former Democratic presidential nominee Senator George McGovern broke with Democratic Party orthodoxy by opposing the EFCA in an August 2008 editorial in the Wall Street Journal:
“ To my friends supporting EFCA I say this: We cannot be a party that strips working Americans of the right to a secret-ballot election. We are the party that has always defended the rights of the working class. To fail to ensure the right to vote free of intimidation and coercion from all sides would be a betrayal of what we have always championed.[23]

[KyCardinalFan]

It seems rather surreal that the man is making a career out of asking a couple of questions which were answered by a presidential candidate. It isn't as if he debated him to a standstill or something, he asked a question and had his flat-tax followup shot down. Why is he a celebrity again?

No kidding. It's not as though that video makes Obama look bad. And Obama's answer certainly shouldn't strike fear into the Joe Plumbers, Joe Sixpacks or 99% of "middle America".

When I saw it originally, I thought *EVERYONE* has to see this clip. I was convinced it would convert 10% of the voters to Obama. It cemented in me that he's the real deal.

And yet the McCain campaign saw something else. Really, with minds thinking so differently it's no wonder I can't understand them. It's like that picture where some people see a witch and some people see a beautiful girl. I watched it and saw one thing, and apparently the McCain camp found something else.

When I saw it originally, I didn't think it looked good for Obama. It ended pretty good, but I thought when he was talking to Joe, and talking about how his tax plan affects Joe, he did a poor job. Paraphrasing: "If my plan had been in place 7-8 years ago you would've gotten a tax cut." If that's me, I'm thinking, I don't care about 7-8 years ago, what are you doing for me now. And if I had invested in Google years ago I'd be a rich person. (And looking at my taxes going up! lol) It wasn't very convincing for the individual even though I understand Obama is trying to show that most people get a hand up.

[Maclowery]

That speech was *terrific*

(half hour Obama-paid ad one, I mean)

[G. Keenan]

Anyone watch the Obama infommercial? I thought it was pretty good.

edit: not 5 minutes after watching an uplifting message from Obama I see a McCain attack add trying to scare me.

[jim]

Anyone watch the Obama infommercial? I thought it was pretty good.

edit: not 5 minutes after watching an uplifting message from Obama I see a McCain attack add trying to scare me.

lol. 30 minutes of what I found to be a very inspirational message, and then "He's not ready... yet"

[Freed Roger]

Its an infomercial for sure. But well done. Targeted towards people that tend to watch prime-time network tv. Positive.

There are a lot of negative routes he could have taken in this campaign,( sometimes I wish he would have.) Really, what's most impressive is that Obama takes the high road - talks about issues and concerns.

Somehow until tonight, I've missed his tieing the decision to run with his mother's death. Realizing life is too short to wait.

Overall it won't hurt, probably will help Obama's chances.

It would be hard to fathom a McPalin infomercial - a whole half hour of Ayers and socialism + Obama.

[jim]

Its an infomercial for sure. But well done. Targeted towards people that tend to watch prime-time network tv. Positive.

There are a lot of negative routes he could have taken in this campaign,( sometimes I wish he would have.) Really, what's most impressive is that Obama takes the high road - talks about issues and concerns.

Somehow until tonight, I've missed his tieing the decision to run with his mother's death. Realizing life is too short to wait to start doing thing.

Overall it won't hurt, probably will help Obama's chances.

It would be hard to fathom a McPalin infomercial - a whole half hour of Ayers and socialism + Obama.

If I took one thing out of this message that was it - life being short and seizing the moment. Call me a sucker, but I really was inspired. imo, he's exactly the right guy at the right time, I've never seen anything close to him in my lifetime.

[Arthur Dent]

Missed it live. Is this it?

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[PujolJunkie]

Missed it live. Is this it?

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That's it.