C. Johny wrote:I just really hope we don't get bent over by the A's again. Every time I see Haren pitch a piece of me dies; I don't know what I'd do if Wallace is hitting moon shots all over Oakland while Holliday is somewhere else next year after doing nothing for the Cards in September and October.
But I really do like the looks of the Cards lineup with Holliday in it. Also with Luddy and DeRosa heating up that could be a ridiculous 3-4-5-6. Easily one of the best in baseball. Add Rasmus in the mix and I think you can seriously make another run at the NL. So I'm really torn.
I also think our rotation in the playoffs would be fine. I think we'd have a solid 1-4 and you barely ever need 4 in the playoffs anyway.
Certainly don't want to hijack the thread, but that's an interesting discussion itself
If we make the playoffs, who starts Game 3? Personally, I'd have to give the ball to Jo-el over Lohse
C. Johny wrote:I just really hope we don't get bent over by the A's again. Every time I see Haren pitch a piece of me dies; I don't know what I'd do if Wallace is hitting moon shots all over Oakland while Holliday is somewhere else next year after doing nothing for the Cards in September and October.
But I really do like the looks of the Cards lineup with Holliday in it. Also with Luddy and DeRosa heating up that could be a ridiculous 3-4-5-6. Easily one of the best in baseball. Add Rasmus in the mix and I think you can seriously make another run at the NL. So I'm really torn.
I also think our rotation in the playoffs would be fine. I think we'd have a solid 1-4 and you barely ever need 4 in the playoffs anyway.
Certainly don't want to hijack the thread, but that's an interesting discussion itself
If we make the playoffs, who starts Game 3? Personally, I'd have to give the ball to Jo-el over Lohse
haltz wrote:The first round pick isn't a guarantee, but another Shelby Miller and Robert Stock would be preferable to Wallace anyway for this organization. No guarantee on any of that of course, but you get the idea.
right. And Holliday could sign with a crappy team and we wouldn't get the 1st but would get the 2nd round pick instead due to the protection rules.
It's a crapshoot, but as much as we love the Walrus around here he's still a bit of one himself.
haltz wrote:The first round pick isn't a guarantee, but another Shelby Miller and Robert Stock would be preferable to Wallace anyway for this organization. No guarantee on any of that of course, but you get the idea.
right. And Holliday could sign with a crappy team and we wouldn't get the 1st but would get the 2nd round pick instead due to the protection rules.
It's a crapshoot, but as much as we love the Walrus around here he's still a bit of one himself.
Not many crappy teams sign guys like Holliday, at least, and there's still good talent in the 2nd round.
C. Johny wrote:I just really hope we don't get bent over by the A's again. Every time I see Haren pitch a piece of me dies; I don't know what I'd do if Wallace is hitting moon shots all over Oakland while Holliday is somewhere else next year after doing nothing for the Cards in September and October.
But I really do like the looks of the Cards lineup with Holliday in it. Also with Luddy and DeRosa heating up that could be a ridiculous 3-4-5-6. Easily one of the best in baseball. Add Rasmus in the mix and I think you can seriously make another run at the NL. So I'm really torn.
I also think our rotation in the playoffs would be fine. I think we'd have a solid 1-4 and you barely ever need 4 in the playoffs anyway.
YEah, but think about the Bud Smith trade for Rolen and Kennedy for Edmonds. Not that I don't understand what you're saying, but that type of thinking would have prevented those trades from going down.
I think Holliday makes this team a playoff team easily with a decent WS shot.
Our rotation is very good right now. 4 deep I would argue one of the best in baseball. 3 deep, not as good, but still well above average.
haltz wrote:The first round pick isn't a guarantee, but another Shelby Miller and Robert Stock would be preferable to Wallace anyway for this organization. No guarantee on any of that of course, but you get the idea.
right. And Holliday could sign with a crappy team and we wouldn't get the 1st but would get the 2nd round pick instead due to the protection rules.
It's a crapshoot, but as much as we love the Walrus around here he's still a bit of one himself.
Not many crappy teams sign guys like Holliday, at least, and there's still good talent in the 2nd round.
As for Willingham, he's hot right now, and it seems you'd have to pay for that. Holliday is down right now and if they're only asking for Wallace, I'd do it.
