Update: HOLLIDAY A CARD 7yr/120 million, p178

[Fat Strat]

I would probably believe Olney over Strauss and infomration that's "leaked" has a tendency to change over time and become more accurate. The truth is probably in between. Cards have offered Holliday a 6.5 year contract.

[Leroy]

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[JL21]

I would probably believe Olney over Strauss and infomration that's "leaked" has a tendency to change over time and become more accurate. The truth is probably in between. Cards have offered Holliday a 6.5 year contract.

Heh.... Holliday will have an opt-out clause, but only in June of 2016.

[haltz]

5yrs/16 million makes no sense...and to me, would be an absolute steal.

Rally has Holliday at 4 WAR, which seems low to me but whatever (+27 offense, +1 defense). Anyway, if you look at this chart and use 5 years and 4 WAR, you get $78M.

[Hungary Jack]

Now reel him in Moz.

[Ace]

I now have a black dot latched onto the "New posts [ Popular ]" symbol.

[Cole Burns]

I'm calling shenanigans on all this. Boras operates this way. He goes deep in negotiations only to drive the price up for a second suitor that doesn't come out of the woodwork until late (see, Texeria, Mark - 2008 NY Yankees). Boras said that he would wait until all the other pieces land. If he (and by "he" I mean Borasm, not Holliday - I don't think Matt gets much of a say in this) gets his way (and he always does) then they'll wait until late February to ink a deal.

[cards2468]

I'm calling shenanigans on all this. Boras operates this way. He goes deep in negotiations only to drive the price up for a second suitor that doesn't come out of the woodwork until late (see, Texeria, Mark - 2008 NY Yankees). Boras said that he would wait until all the other pieces land. If he (and by "he" I mean Borasm, not Holliday - I don't think Matt gets much of a say in this) gets his way (and he always does) then they'll wait until late February to ink a deal.

Tex signed before x-mas last year, granted that was under Tex's instruction

[haltz]

I don't think Matt gets much of a say in this

of course he does. pretty much whatever happens is what he wants including Boras being his agent from the beginning.

If he dicked his clients over he would just get fired until he represented no one at all.

[TimeForGuinness]

5yrs/16 million makes no sense...and to me, would be an absolute steal.

Rally has Holliday at 4 WAR, which seems low to me but whatever (+27 offense, +1 defense). Anyway, if you look at this chart and use 5 years and 4 WAR, you get $78M.

Not denying that...I'm guessing it's a fair offer.

But the reports of the contracts offered to Bay then seem pretty high $63 million/4 years...which he turned down...but another team has "apparently" offered a 5th year...which would put it on par with Holliday.

Something isn't lining up, that's all.