and they serve a need, just not with our team. we have no place for them. look at Burleson's stats in the minors before we ever brought him up...that's valuable for a team that needs his particular skill and could have brought something back our team could use in return (minor league arm).
you get the best pitching prospect the other team will offer for them and move on.
having them on our team serves no purpose other than diminishing their value.
What skill are you referring to, that would be better suited on a different team as opposed to our team?
a guy who can hit very well, but not field...we have a lot of those
another team lacking a DH would most likely give some type of minor league arm for that
He's worth some type of minor league arm. Probably not the type you think Mo could have gotten for him.
geez man, BAS is gone so you have to find someone else to argue with?
when and where did I say what type of arm I think we could have gotten? no [expletive] where
you get the best arm in the minors a team is willing to part with
he and baker are wasting space on this roster, so you need to get a minor league arm for them
What happened to BAS?
I would rather have Burleson than a Kyle Leahy type of arm.
I don't look at our back and forth as an argument. Just trying to have a productive convo about Mo on a message board.
Trade Goldschmidt. I hate to say it, but it's the only deadline move they could make to really improve this team (near term and in the future) without just robbing Peter to pay Paul.
If you trade for pitching and give up the likes of Gorman/Donovan/Nootbaar, you're just opening a different leaky hole in the hull of your sinking ship. If you can get good pitching back in return for Goldy, you aren't giving up on the future, and you can move Walker to first. The WAR you are giving up with losing Goldy would be replaced with the pitching, and Walker not being in the outfield.
MLB trade deadline: Ranking top 20 trade candidates
3. Jordan Montgomery, LHP, Cardinals
Here's hoping Montgomery is OK with living out of hotels. He was traded last summer as part of a challenge deal involving Harrison Bader and the Yankees. Now, he could be moved again this deadline, just months before hitting the open market. Montgomery doesn't have flashy stuff by any means, but he should be in demand. He's an above-average left-hander who is on pace for his third consecutive 30-plus start season. Those don't grow on trees. Even if they did, those trees would probably be cleared to make room for a strip mall. Potential suitors: Dodgers, Orioles, Phillies
5. Paul DeJong, SS, Cardinals
Here's a most unexpected sentence: DeJong looks like the best shortstop target available this deadline. How did we get here? Through a few surprising developments, including Tim Anderson's poor season and DeJong's resurgence after several down years. We're not so sure the latter is built to last. DeJong is hitting the ball hard more frequently than he has in some time, but there are a lot of iffy aspects to be found under the hood. To wit, his whiff rate remains on the wrong side of 30%, and he continues to chase outside of the zone as often as he has since his rookie year. His home run rate also looks unsustainable given his historical norms and his current exit-velocity profile. We're not trying to be overly negative here; it's just the reality of the situation. With all that written, DeJong has produced top-line results so far this season, and his glovework gives him a wider berth than the normal player. We're just not sure we'd want to bet on him going forward (his contract contains two additional club options), which makes him more of a rental in our eyes. Potential suitors: Dodgers, Brewers, Mariners
15. Jordan Hicks, RHP, Cardinals
Hicks looked like he was on the cusp of being designated for assignment as recently as May 5, when his ERA peaked at 7.62. He's since turned his season around in dazzling fashion -- to the degree that he's on pace to finish with an ERA+ north of 100 for the first time since 2019. Hicks still has as much arm strength as anyone or anything else in Creation, as well as a sweeper that has generated more than 50% whiffs so far this season. He's an impending free agent, so the Cardinals don't have to proceed with a larger teardown to justify moving him at the deadline. Potential suitors: Dodgers, Blue Jays, Rangers
Watched him in the big leagues. If you’re gonna be a DH type you have to absolutely mash. You can’t be a 15-20 home run guy. No one is trading for that. Dime a dozen.
Watched him in the big leagues. If you’re gonna be a DH type you have to absolutely mash. You can’t be a 15-20 home run guy. No one is trading for that. Dime a dozen.
yeah, to me, his disappointing performance has went under the radar. I never thought he'd be a "good" player but I for sure thought he would mash some homers.
The Cardinals have the 5th highest payroll allocation to starting pitching in baseball, and 26th in starter ERA
If that doesn't spell out how poorly Mo has mismanaged funds...
I think it speaks more to the abysmal player development (especially starting pitching), which forces them to buy pitchers on the open market.
It's impossible to have successful roster management if you're not building a core from within.
That definitely is a major factor but you would think if you paid 77 Million on a rotation you'd have at least a competent set of arms. They have an abysmal staff.
Yikes. I didn’t realize it was quite that bad. It is downright embarrassing that we are spending $77MM on this dumpster fire of a rotation, which includes two pre-FA pitchers (Flaherty and Monty).
