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Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:20 pm
by cardsfantx
Magneto2.0 wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:16 pm
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:10 pm
Mo has to add three legitimate starters to the rotation in the offseason. Good [expletive] luck.
More than likely it'll be 2. One free agent signing, 1 trade, and Liberatore or Drew Rom or Adam Kloffenstein will fight for the 5th slot.
Yeah, I don’t see us adding 3 starters
2 via FA or trade and rolling with Mikolas, Matz, and a liberatore/hudson/graceffo/mcgreevy for the 5th spot
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:20 pm
by TGantz
I... do not like being sellers. Really not very fun seeing a bunch of key Cardinal players the last few years be traded away for future gambles. I agree that they all needed to be traded. Flaherty and DeJong were frustrating and Montgomery always seemed like he hated it here. Stratton was solid but replaceable. Hicks' value will probably never be higher with his inconsistency.
But damn, I hope we're back to buyers next deadline.
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:20 pm
by phins
Magneto2.0 wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:16 pm
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:10 pm
Mo has to add three legitimate starters to the rotation in the offseason. Good [expletive] luck.
More than likely it'll be 2. One free agent signing, 1 trade, and Liberatore or Drew Rom or Adam Kloffenstein will fight for the 5th slot.
This is what I see.
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:21 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
cardsfantx wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:20 pm
Magneto2.0 wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:16 pm
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:10 pm
Mo has to add three legitimate starters to the rotation in the offseason. Good [expletive] luck.
More than likely it'll be 2. One free agent signing, 1 trade, and Liberatore or Drew Rom or Adam Kloffenstein will fight for the 5th slot.
Yeah, I don’t see us adding 3 starters
2 via FA or trade and rolling with Mikolas, Matz, and a liberatore/hudson/graceffo/mcgreevy for the 5th spot
Inspiring
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:22 pm
by jagtrader
Cardinals completely lack creativity and imagination. It’s depressing.
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:23 pm
by dmarx114
I think we will get 3 legit starters next year.
Mo’s job security requires aggressiveness.
Having matz as the 4 and Liberatore as the 5 will get him fired if they flop.
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:27 pm
by Slider
dmarx114 wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:23 pm
I think we will get 3 legit starters next year.
Mo’s job security requires aggressiveness.
Having matz as the 4 and Liberatore as the 5 will get him fired if they flop.
It won’t get him fired if he is doing what Dewitt asks of him.
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:28 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
jagtrader wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:22 pm
Cardinals completely lack creativity and imagination. It’s depressing.
Yep. They did the bare minimum of what they had to at the deadline and not an inch more.
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:29 pm
by Magneto2.0
They got a top 60 prospect back and some decent pieces for 5 expiring contracts. That's a good haul imo
They got pretty much what I projected. Actually, even slightly better because I didn't think a top 100 prospect would come back. Unless they added a position player to one of these trades, they wasn't getting a 100% penciled in starter for next season. The Mets didn't even get that for Verlander and Scherzer.
Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild
Posted: August 1 23, 4:30 pm
by jagtrader
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:28 pm
jagtrader wrote: ↑August 1 23, 4:22 pm
Cardinals completely lack creativity and imagination. It’s depressing.
Yep. They did the bare minimum of what they had to at the deadline and not an inch more.
The Cardinal Way.