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Posted: May 25 07, 10:15 am
by greenback44
skmsw wrote:
“I’m just trying to wait for my pitch and make a good swing,” Molina said. “That’s it, man. I don’t know. I don’t know what you want to hear, but that’s the basics. I’m learning to wait for my pitch. If it’s not there, I don’t swing at it.”
He may FEEL that way, but it is almost assuredly NOT the secret to his current success.

For the year, yadi is still in the bottom ten in all of baseball in pitches seen per at-bat.
Yeah. ESPN.com has him a tad lower this year (3.36) than last (3.40) in P/PA.

Gateway's taking one for the team here.

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 18 07, 9:40 pm
by GatewaySnayke
Yadier since he returned from injury:

.233/.292/.256

Sweet. When he came back from injury, it looked like he would resume hitting for average. Since July 2 he has six hits. And his numbers are quickly falling to their '06 levels. His slugging is now a measley .322.

Bryan Anderson, where art thou?

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Posted: July 18 07, 9:54 pm
by greenback44
You're going to hell, snayke.
haltz wrote:Molina has a better on-contact batting average than league average. It's 70 points higher than his career rate. He is getting lucky to some extent, that much really isn't arguable. It's also not arguable that at least every ten games or so, especially if you don't strike out or homer much, that one of your hits (or outs) will be a hit or an out due to complete variance. All of that makes sense, right?

Now, less sabermetrically and more practically, take away just four measly hits and he's got a line of: .254/.319/.320.
Oh, that gives me the creeps. It's like that Kennedy/Lincoln thing.

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 18 07, 9:59 pm
by GatewaySnayke
I like to think of hell as a place where we watch Yadier Molina adjust his swing 10 times per season.

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 18 07, 10:08 pm
by docellis
I wonder where we would be right now if he had hit .233 until he was injured

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 18 07, 10:10 pm
by Faceman
not this thread again

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 18 07, 10:13 pm
by GatewaySnayke
Faceman wrote:not this thread again
Yes, although now it should be titled "Has there ever been a more hollow .260?"

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 18 07, 10:53 pm
by Richie Allen
GatewaySnayke wrote:
Faceman wrote:not this thread again
Yes, although now it should be titled "Has there ever been a more hollow .260?"
How obvious is it that you've been waiting, possibly even hoping, that Yadi would eventually cool off from his .290 days so you could once again chime in about how you've always been right about his poor hitting.

You'll not see one post with my name on it bragging about Yadi when he was hitting .300, not to mention the talk of him probably being an all star if he hadn't gotten hurt, although I've argued for two seasons in a row that he's our everyday catcher and that he's a better hitter than what the .216 in '06 would indicate.

So why are you so quick to criticize his hitting, the moment it hits .260, unless you have some vested interest in seeing him fail? Are you that concerned about looking bad on an internet forum that you'd actually take solace in seeing a Cardinal perform as you predicted (poorly)?

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 19 07, 2:18 am
by thrill
Richie Allen wrote:So why are you so quick to criticize his hitting, the moment it hits .260, unless you have some vested interest in seeing him fail? Are you that concerned about looking bad on an internet forum that you'd actually take solace in seeing a Cardinal perform as you predicted (poorly)?
Snayke got an unprecedented amount of flack and attacks for a stance that was legitimate and logical. A lot of people may not have liked how he went about it, but he was right and with all the arrows slung his way, he deserves to be able to bump this as vindication.

Re: Has there ever been a more hollow .292?

Posted: July 19 07, 7:04 am
by Popeye_Card
thrill wrote:
Richie Allen wrote:So why are you so quick to criticize his hitting, the moment it hits .260, unless you have some vested interest in seeing him fail? Are you that concerned about looking bad on an internet forum that you'd actually take solace in seeing a Cardinal perform as you predicted (poorly)?
Snayke got an unprecedented amount of flack and attacks for a stance that was legitimate and logical. A lot of people may not have liked how he went about it, but he was right and with all the arrows slung his way, he deserves to be able to bump this as vindication.
He got flak for being a Debbie Downer? Woe is he...

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