Understanding and appreciating that I’m irrelevant at this point, I think I’m in full crusty curmudgeon mode listening to these best of 2024 playlists. Boring, lame, annoying.
Re: Music talk Thread
Posted: December 6 24, 8:54 am
by heyzeus
This is the best song of all time.
Re: Music talk Thread
Posted: December 13 24, 5:24 pm
by BottenFieldofDreams
I might be able to do Timothy Chalamet as Dylan if I hadn’t seen that video of him rapping at a high school talent show. It’s… a lot—try to miss it. I’m being a real sanctimonious a-hole here. But won’t be too apologetic about it. Wonka, sure. Dune G’l’aib or whatever—sure. He could be Rivers Cuomo or Kurt Cobain or Eminem, or even more legendary figures like Bowie or Iggy Pop or something.
But Bob Dylan? Hard for me to swallow.
Also, biopics these days are so toothless I’m not sure it would be good or interesting if perfectly cast.
I might be able to do Timothy Chalamet as Dylan if I hadn’t seen that video of him rapping at a high school talent show. It’s… a lot—try to miss it. I’m being a real sanctimonious a-hole here. But won’t be too apologetic about it. Wonka, sure. Dune G’l’aib or whatever—sure. He could be Rivers Cuomo or Kurt Cobain or Eminem, or even more legendary figures like Bowie or Iggy Pop or something.
But Bob Dylan? Hard for me to swallow.
Also, biopics these days are so toothless I’m not sure it would be good or interesting if perfectly cast.
I'm cautiously optimistic, but yeah, Chalamet is really gonna have to sell it all here. I guess he does the singing, as well.
In somewhat related style, I finally watched the film "Yesterday", a film about if The Beatles hadn't existed. I was pleasantly surprised. Going in, I knew it was gonna be a big Beatles bj affair, so I just dropped any expectations of something deep. But I admit, I cried at the Lennon scene. They (The Beatles) did all that in about 7 years. That's a ton of history in such a short span.
Re: Music talk Thread
Posted: December 19 24, 9:41 am
by heyzeus
Fascinating article at Harper's about "Ghost artists" at spotify. Basically, Spotify creates fake artists and songs - allegedly by AI, but definitely by hiring session musicians to create off-label Muzak - and stocks playlists with them so that they don't have to pay royalties to actual bands/artists that previously had their songs populate these playlists.
Fascinating article at Harper's about "Ghost artists" at spotify. Basically, Spotify creates fake artists and songs - allegedly by AI, but definitely by hiring session musicians to create off-label Muzak - and stocks playlists with them so that they don't have to pay royalties to actual bands/artists that previously had their songs populate these playlists.
Do you think people will ever just have enough of big companies screwing literally everyone to make a dollar? Yeah I know some scumbag CEO got shot a week ago but it's a one time thing and it changes nothing. I just feel like literally every company out there is just trying to fleece everyone for every cent. I get trying to make money, I'm not opposed to it, hell I even like it but it seems like we are past just making money and into the pure greed and milking every cent out of everyone phase of the world.
Fascinating article at Harper's about "Ghost artists" at spotify. Basically, Spotify creates fake artists and songs - allegedly by AI, but definitely by hiring session musicians to create off-label Muzak - and stocks playlists with them so that they don't have to pay royalties to actual bands/artists that previously had their songs populate these playlists.
Do you think people will ever just have enough of big companies screwing literally everyone to make a dollar? Yeah I know some scumbag CEO got shot a week ago but it's a one time thing and it changes nothing. I just feel like literally every company out there is just trying to fleece everyone for every cent. I get trying to make money, I'm not opposed to it, hell I even like it but it seems like we are past just making money and into the pure greed and milking every cent out of everyone phase of the world.
There's a term for this, and let's see if it gets past our filter: "Ensh!ttification." Here's the definition:
"The gradual deterioration of a service or product brought about by a reduction in the quality of service provided, especially of an online platform, and as a consequence of profit-seeking.”
You see it literally everywhere that big corporations touch. Streaming services. Google. Spotify. Retail stores. Amazon (try to find a real, legit product; 3/4 of their inventory now is crappy low-quality Chinese knockoffs).
What's coming next? I have no idea. I don't think the people will revolt, or anything. We're too overworked and busy and stressed to do that. What's happening now is what will happen in the future: Wealthier people will continue to be able to afford better food, better products, better homes, better vehicles. Everyone else will continue to receive worse of all of the above.
What's coming next? I have no idea. I don't think the people will revolt, or anything. We're too overworked and busy and stressed to do that.
"Ready Player One" provides us with a possible glimpse into our future. I had that thought when they were really pushing the Metaverse notion a while back.
Fascinating article at Harper's about "Ghost artists" at spotify. Basically, Spotify creates fake artists and songs - allegedly by AI, but definitely by hiring session musicians to create off-label Muzak - and stocks playlists with them so that they don't have to pay royalties to actual bands/artists that previously had their songs populate these playlists.
Do you think people will ever just have enough of big companies screwing literally everyone to make a dollar? Yeah I know some scumbag CEO got shot a week ago but it's a one time thing and it changes nothing. I just feel like literally every company out there is just trying to fleece everyone for every cent. I get trying to make money, I'm not opposed to it, hell I even like it but it seems like we are past just making money and into the pure greed and milking every cent out of everyone phase of the world.
There's a term for this, and let's see if it gets past our filter: "Ensh!ttification." Here's the definition:
"The gradual deterioration of a service or product brought about by a reduction in the quality of service provided, especially of an online platform, and as a consequence of profit-seeking.”
You see it literally everywhere that big corporations touch. Streaming services. Google. Spotify. Retail stores. Amazon (try to find a real, legit product; 3/4 of their inventory now is crappy low-quality Chinese knockoffs).
What's coming next? I have no idea. I don't think the people will revolt, or anything. We're too overworked and busy and stressed to do that. What's happening now is what will happen in the future: Wealthier people will continue to be able to afford better food, better products, better homes, better vehicles. Everyone else will continue to receive worse of all of the above.
makes being a millennial so sweet--we've seen/experienced the golden age of literally everything--pre/post internet.
i [expletive] alot of about the cardinals and the vols, but i grew up in a time where i saw them be their absolute best for a extended period of time.
i've also see the best pop culture has to offer--music, movie and television.
at this point in my life, i'm a podcast guy. i already have my favorite bands so i rarely listen to new music. nothing is good anymore, generally speaking.
with movies, you could argue there were instant classics premiering on an annual basis. you could bank a fun blockbuster every summer. now i couldnt tell you the last movie i was genuinely excited for. my guess is Odyssey will be that movie, but only because im a nolan honk and id be willing to bet i'll just wait for it come to a streaming services a couple month after release and have to watch it with commercials (that i'm paying a sub for (([expletive])).
no good tv. yellowstone effect hits every good series--starts off strong, but can't wait for it mercifully end itself.
this is prolly what is called getting old, but i feel like its different for millennials considering everything we've experienced.
i know it probably doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things if AI creates music or movies, but truth be told, i don't want to live in a society where nothing is real.
Re: Music talk Thread
Posted: December 27 24, 1:55 pm
by BottenFieldofDreams
I think the key to Spotify is to find good curators. And I always say I’m going to find them and then give up quickly. Sometimes Spotify will cook up something interesting for me, but generally I’m 2-3 songs away from listening to all my same old stuff—which while not as good as AI in-house music, is also probably good for them.
As a kid who would spend every dollar on music and loved discovery, I still marvel at having every song ever in my pocket. There is plenty of downside to this model. Most of the inefficiencies tech bros are trying to solve are humans between themselves and the customer’s money. I paid for a month of Suno—the ai music maker, and all I can say is, in one way, we’re definitely [expletive]. It’s getting really good.
But in another way, maybe our desire for real connection and real creativity and real story telling will push us through this fear of everyone else these tech bros are pumping into us and into communal spaces, face to face. An actual person slightly out of tune will eventually be better than HAL’s undeniable engineered earworm. Guitars will still hold a tune in whatever feudal post-apocalypse is being cooked up. And if my progeny can’t get ahold of one, hopefully they can blow through a reed and bang some rocks together.