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Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 27 25, 7:59 pm
by CardsofSTL
Donovan + Arenado for Skenes--who says no?
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 27 25, 10:12 pm
by WAR God
phins wrote: ↑December 27 25, 7:26 pm
WAR God wrote: ↑December 27 25, 6:08 pm
he’s arb2+arb3 this season and next. Pencil him in for 3 WAR each of those seasons.
Thats surplus value. Maybe not enough for the Dodgers of the world to move a great prospect for him, but for the mid to mid lower size market who is trying to make the playoffs, that’s meaningful.
He's a force multiplier on value because he can play anywhere and be a plus starter. If he was "just" a 2.7 WAR 2B or just a LF, or just a 3B etc. he would be lower value. But literally every single contender can use Donovan and afford him.
His value is supercharged compared to a player of his results for those reasons.
Exactly.
Bidding ends with a top 15 prospect in baseball.
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 27 25, 10:36 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Would you trade JJ Wetherholt for Isaac Paredes? Because that’s basically what you’re looking for
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 27 25, 11:35 pm
by Joe Shlabotnik
CardsofSTL wrote: ↑December 27 25, 7:59 pm
Donovan + Arenado for Skenes--who says no?
The Pirates
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 28 25, 6:33 am
by WAR God
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑December 27 25, 10:36 pm
Would you trade JJ Wetherholt for Isaac Paredes? Because that’s basically what you’re looking for
You mean the guy with back to back All-Star game appearances?
Trading Jordan Walker for him would’ve been a good move.
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 28 25, 7:32 am
by Famous Mortimer
Are there any good comps for trades featuring people like Donovan? I think we ought to get ready for a trade, if it does happen, not being...well, not being close to the value attributed to him in this thread. But I could be wrong.
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 28 25, 8:24 am
by MrCrowesGarden
WAR God wrote: ↑December 28 25, 6:33 am
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑December 27 25, 10:36 pm
Would you trade JJ Wetherholt for Isaac Paredes? Because that’s basically what you’re looking for
You mean the guy with back to back All-Star game appearances?
Trading Jordan Walker for him would’ve been a good move.
So that is a yes for you? Because I think there would be a lot of backlash if the Cardinals made that trade, and I think Paredes is a better player than Donnie.
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 28 25, 8:46 am
by ghostrunner
This is one of those arguments where everyone agrees and we’re pre-arguing the outcome.
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 28 25, 2:11 pm
by WAR God
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑December 28 25, 8:24 am
WAR God wrote: ↑December 28 25, 6:33 am
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑December 27 25, 10:36 pm
Would you trade JJ Wetherholt for Isaac Paredes? Because that’s basically what you’re looking for
You mean the guy with back to back All-Star game appearances?
Trading Jordan Walker for him would’ve been a good move.
So that is a yes for you? Because I think there would be a lot of backlash if the Cardinals made that trade, and I think Paredes is a better player than Donnie.
Don’t you famously hate prospects?
Re: MLB Off-season 2025-'26 (Cardinals)
Posted: December 28 25, 6:02 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
I don’t hate them, I advocate trading them, especially for stars.
I am also acknowledging a reality. I think you’re going to be really upset with the Donovan return.