Coronavirus

[Socnorb11]

A friend of mine went to her son's wrestling tournament on Dec. 4. On Dec. 11, Covid killed her.

46 years old. Non-masker, non-vaxxer. 2 kids and a husband, who I'm almost certain won't learn anything from this experience. Depressing.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

A friend of mine went to her son's wrestling tournament on Dec. 4. On Dec. 11, Covid killed her.

46 years old. Non-masker, non-vaxxer. 2 kids and a husband, who I'm almost certain won't learn anything from this experience. Depressing.

But owning the libs with her dying breath. That's something her kids will be telling their grandkids with pride and tears in their eyes. More precious than life itself.

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Just found out a vaxxed 2nd cousin, 60ish years old, died yesterday. Had been on a vent for a week and in the hospital for 3 weeks.

[GeddyWrox]

Damn.

[Joe Shlabotnik]

We had to get more tests yesterday (negative) because the son's ex who has his two young sons at her house and refused to get vaccinated or tested has come down with it. She's a disappointing piece of work. She told my son she was feeling like she might be in trouble Saturday when her 8 year old complained about not being able to taste. So she had him and herself tested. Despite that, she attended her mother's 50th birthday celebration sans mask that evening - had to be 50-60 people there including many elderly. Then she woke up yesterday hungover, sick and finding out she tested positive. Can you believe it? So there my 1 and 3 year old grandsons are quarantining in a house full of covid. It's an awful situation all around.

Follow up on this. My son tested positive and is here in his room with fever and no taste/smell. He was vaccinated 4 months ago so hopefully is over it soon We all got retested today. We were going to get our boosters this week but hadn't yet. Don't feel anything yet. We'll see!

GRB lawyers, can we sue his ex or bring up child endangerment for the way she handled this thing? We aren't getting much info on the grandkids. Pisses me off.

Fast forward 3 weeks. My son's begun his second week back on the job. Two weekends ago his kids were back in the house but by the time they left Sunday afternoon, the oldest grandson had a drippy nose and was hacking a cough which I got full in the face a few times. The next day (one week ago) my wife and I got Moderna boosters.

Well, last Thursday evening I start feeling a bit run down and coughing the same cough the grandson was now taking Amoxicillin for. So I stayed home Friday from work and coughed and had a sore throat all weekend. Also Friday, I took a COVID home test since the grandkids were going to be here all weekend again. Negative. By today both cough and soreness had subsided and I was left with basically nasal congestion and a run-down feeling if I tried to get up and do much of anything. Stayed home from work again.

Then when I went to dinner tonight, I was surprised to see home made banana bread on the table. And then it hit me I was surprised because... I didn't smell it! Used some hand sanitizer - couldn't smell that either. Took another at-home COVID test and - yup - positive. Wheeeeee!!

So all you epidemiologists out there - what are the chances this is a reaction to the booster last week?

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

We had to get more tests yesterday (negative) because the son's ex who has his two young sons at her house and refused to get vaccinated or tested has come down with it. She's a disappointing piece of work. She told my son she was feeling like she might be in trouble Saturday when her 8 year old complained about not being able to taste. So she had him and herself tested. Despite that, she attended her mother's 50th birthday celebration sans mask that evening - had to be 50-60 people there including many elderly. Then she woke up yesterday hungover, sick and finding out she tested positive. Can you believe it? So there my 1 and 3 year old grandsons are quarantining in a house full of covid. It's an awful situation all around.

Follow up on this. My son tested positive and is here in his room with fever and no taste/smell. He was vaccinated 4 months ago so hopefully is over it soon We all got retested today. We were going to get our boosters this week but hadn't yet. Don't feel anything yet. We'll see!

GRB lawyers, can we sue his ex or bring up child endangerment for the way she handled this thing? We aren't getting much info on the grandkids. Pisses me off.

Fast forward 3 weeks. My son's begun his second week back on the job. Two weekends ago his kids were back in the house but by the time they left Sunday afternoon, the oldest grandson had a drippy nose and was hacking a cough which I got full in the face a few times. The next day (one week ago) my wife and I got Moderna boosters.

Well, last Thursday evening I start feeling a bit run down and coughing the same cough the grandson was now taking Amoxicillin for. So I stayed home Friday from work and coughed and had a sore throat all weekend. Also Friday, I took a COVID home test since the grandkids were going to be here all weekend again. Negative. By today both cough and soreness had subsided and I was left with basically nasal congestion and a run-down feeling if I tried to get up and do much of anything. Stayed home from work again.

Then when I went to dinner tonight, I was surprised to see home made banana bread on the table. And then it hit me I was surprised because... I didn't smell it! Used some hand sanitizer - couldn't smell that either. Took another at-home COVID test and - yup - positive. Wheeeeee!!

So all you epidemiologists out there - what are the chances this is a reaction to the booster last week?

If I follow, your 1 and 3 yo grandsons (hadn't tested positive but were exposed a minimum 7 days before staying with you) and your 8 yo grandson (had tested positive 7 days before staying with you) came over, one of which at least had a cough and didn't feel well. Call that day 0. Sunday

Day 1 you get boosted. Monday

Day 4 you feel bad - cough, sore throat, etc. Thursday.

Day 5 test negative. Friday.

Day 8 cough gone but feel tired; lose smell; test positive. Monday

Been a while, but I'm almost certain vaccines don't cause positive RTPCR or Antigen covid tests, though I forget the science behind it.

Pure speculation, but your grandkids could have gotten you sick with something other than covid, it weakened your immune system, the booster further wore you down, and you were exposed to covid at some point that was able to infect you. Following the likely timeframe which is more of a guide than anything, you would have been exposed 3-4 days prior to losing smell, which would be around days 4-6, but could extend as far back as 10 days, Day (-2) theoretically.

Kind of irrelevant at this point, take care of yourself, get plenty of rest and don't forget there are therapeutics available out there at this point if you need them. Don't hesitate in the least to take advantage of that, imo. There are the monoclonal antibodies that have approval. I think fluvoxamine has approval at this point. And, iirc there are a couple others that have approval. All of these are early treatments, so don't hesitate if you need help.

[GeddyWrox]

Dang, Joe... Keep us posted please!

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Dang, Joe... Keep us posted please!

Will do. And @AWvsCBsteeeerike3 , you got it except it was just the 1 and 3 year old over. The 8byear old isn't my son's so he doesn't come over on the weekends. Thanks for the insights!

[AWvsCBsteeeerike3]

Dang, Joe... Keep us posted please!

Will do. And @AWvsCBsteeeerike3 , you got it except it was just the 1 and 3 year old over. The 8byear old isn't my son's so he doesn't come over on the weekends. Thanks for the insights!

Gotcha.

I want to reiterate though that early therapeutics are available. Think of covid as two separate things: 1) the early cold like stuff that affects smell/taste/cough/headaches/etc basically all the stuff in your nose/throat/head that can progress to 2) respiratory infections like pneumonia and some of that other [expletive] where organs start to get affected. 1 is less of a big deal and 2 is a major deal. Treating at 1 can prevent 2. Theoretically the vaccine does a great job of preventing 1 from progressing to 2 as well, but you know...no need to risk it if you start feeling worse. Those therapeutics, I don't think, help much with covid once it gets to 2.

[GeddyWrox]

Dang, Joe... Keep us posted please!

Will do. And @AWvsCBsteeeerike3 , you got it except it was just the 1 and 3 year old over. The 8byear old isn't my son's so he doesn't come over on the weekends. Thanks for the insights!

Gotcha.

I want to reiterate though that early therapeutics are available. Think of covid as two separate things: 1) the early cold like stuff that affects smell/taste/cough/headaches/etc basically all the stuff in your nose/throat/head that can progress to 2) respiratory infections like pneumonia and some of that other [expletive] where organs start to get affected. 1 is less of a big deal and 2 is a major deal. Treating at 1 can prevent 2. Theoretically the vaccine does a great job of preventing 1 from progressing to 2 as well, but you know...no need to risk it if you start feeling worse. Those therapeutics, I don't think, help much with covid once it gets to 2.

Seconded!