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Then tell me what it means if I'm so wrong.

Sorry to disappoint you, jim.

UK wrote:Here's one from my favorite author/writer of the last 15 years: Thomas Friedman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/opini ... ref=slogin

That's a good article. These two paragraphs sum it up very nicely.

"I don’t know how much steel is in Obama’s belly, but I do know that the issues he is focusing on in this campaign — improving education and health care, dealing with the deficit and forging a real energy policy based on building a whole new energy infrastructure — are the only way we can put steel back into America’s spine. McCain, alas, has abandoned those issues for the culture-war strategy."

"Who cares how much steel John McCain has in his gut when the steel that today holds up our bridges, railroads, nuclear reactors and other infrastructure is rusting? McCain talks about how he would build dozens of nuclear power plants. Oh, really? They go for $10 billion a pop. Where is the money going to come from? From lowering taxes? From banning abortions? From borrowing more from China? From having Sarah Palin “reform” Washington — as if she has any more clue how to do that than the first 100 names in the D.C. phonebook?"

Richie Allen wrote:

UK wrote:Here's one from my favorite author/writer of the last 15 years: Thomas Friedman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/opini ... ref=slogin

That's a good article. These two paragraphs sum it up very nicely.

"I don’t know how much steel is in Obama’s belly, but I do know that the issues he is focusing on in this campaign — improving education and health care, dealing with the deficit and forging a real energy policy based on building a whole new energy infrastructure — are the only way we can put steel back into America’s spine. McCain, alas, has abandoned those issues for the culture-war strategy."

"Who cares how much steel John McCain has in his gut when the steel that today holds up our bridges, railroads, nuclear reactors and other infrastructure is rusting? McCain talks about how he would build dozens of nuclear power plants. Oh, really? They go for $10 billion a pop. Where is the money going to come from? From lowering taxes? From banning abortions? From borrowing more from China? From having Sarah Palin “reform” Washington — as if she has any more clue how to do that than the first 100 names in the D.C. phonebook?"

I don't know if you read his older articles, but I thought this was an outstanding piece and better than today's...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/opini ... edman.html

Interesting thread. Maybe I should read it from the beginning…

I get the feeling that a lot of GRBers are more liberal-minded.

/i kid, i kid

jim wrote:I wish this election were about issues where people would stop and reflect on some of these very well spoken folks, but it's not is it? It's just 3rd grade playground mentality, and the McCain camp knows it and is using it to it's advantage.

Hopefully the debates will be about issues. More importantly, rather than just switching to the candidate have the moderator with the intelligence to ask a follow-up question if they are given a rehearsed answer with no substance. That's what this campaign is missing with Russert. It's somthing Gibson failed to do in his interview with Palin. He had several opportunites to request a yes/no answer which she failed to answer and rotated around answering the question, in which he failed to do his job.

jim wrote:

UK wrote:

jim wrote:I wish this election were about issues where people would stop and reflect on some of these very well spoken folks, but it's not is it? It's just 3rd grade playground mentality, and the McCain camp knows it and is using it to it's advantage.

Hopefully the debates will be about issues. More importantly, rather than just switching to the candidate have the moderator with the intelligence to ask a follow-up question if they are given a rehearsed answer with no substance. That's what this campaign is missing with Russert. It's somthing Gibson failed to do in his interview with Palin. He had several opportunites to request a yes/no answer which she failed to answer and rotated around answering the question, in which he failed to do his job.

I hope you are right, but that's not what McCain will shoot for...

Sep 9, 2008 ... "This campaign is not about issues. . . it's about personality."-- Rick Davis, McCain campaign chief advisor

McCain (hopefully) won't be able to sway the moderator in that direction, if he or Palin avoids issues with rhetoric like they have so far, I assume it'll hurt them significantly (although that is overestimating the intelligence of the avg. voter of either party).

You can't paint liberals with a broad brush any more than you can conservatives. It's much more complex than that - I categorize myself as neither and frankly don't know which side some of my views fall on and could care less.

But label away if you must, although doing so detracts from getting to the meat of most issues, IMHO.

Radbird wrote:You can't paint liberals with a broad brush any more than you can conservatives. It's much more complex than that - I categorize myself as neither and frankly don't know which side some of my views fall on and could care less.

But label away if you must, although doing so detracts from getting to the meat of most issues, IMHO.

You can label yourself, I consider myself a social liberal and fiscal moderate. It's when you detract the opposite side based on their label when nothing positive comes out of it as far as defending negative stereotypes rather than healthy political talk, which seldom exists but potentially can.