2017 College Football Thread
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does it surprise you that kirk herbstreit is washing ohio state's balls?
this is not ok from any standpoint.
this is not ok from any standpoint.
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I guess I'm just trying to figure out what that standpoint is. And, bear with me.
Is what Schiano did wrong? Well, we have no idea. There are conflicting testimonies (McQueary vs Bradley). And, we're never going to find out. Also, even going by that report I posted, if McQueary's version is correct, Schiano did not cover up anything, he told Bradley. Now, he could/should have done more, yes. But, we don't even know if he saw anything. So, I'm tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt especially since he seems to be an upstanding guy other than this. And, I don't think hiring Schiano = complacency with child rape or even an association with it as seems to be the argument TN fans are making.
What happened at PSU is/was disgusting. Obviously we all agree on that. But, you can't burn anyone that was ever associated with the program down just based on loosely being associated with something. I mean, Bradley is every bit as guilty as Schiano, and Bradley is employed by UCLA and Schiano is employed by OSU, neither of which are taking any heat for it.
I kind of get the feeling TN fans wanted a better hire and are in a mob mentality of clasping onto something/anything to not believe this is it....especially when the sentimentality seemed to be Gruden or bust.
Is what Schiano did wrong? Well, we have no idea. There are conflicting testimonies (McQueary vs Bradley). And, we're never going to find out. Also, even going by that report I posted, if McQueary's version is correct, Schiano did not cover up anything, he told Bradley. Now, he could/should have done more, yes. But, we don't even know if he saw anything. So, I'm tempted to give him the benefit of the doubt especially since he seems to be an upstanding guy other than this. And, I don't think hiring Schiano = complacency with child rape or even an association with it as seems to be the argument TN fans are making.
What happened at PSU is/was disgusting. Obviously we all agree on that. But, you can't burn anyone that was ever associated with the program down just based on loosely being associated with something. I mean, Bradley is every bit as guilty as Schiano, and Bradley is employed by UCLA and Schiano is employed by OSU, neither of which are taking any heat for it.
I kind of get the feeling TN fans wanted a better hire and are in a mob mentality of clasping onto something/anything to not believe this is it....especially when the sentimentality seemed to be Gruden or bust.
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This is unequivocally true, but people can do the right thing for the wrong reasons. Schiano wasn't some guy who stopped for gas in State College, he was an assistant there for 6 years, and someone testified under oath that he saw Sandusky's behavior first hand.AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:I kind of get the feeling TN fans wanted a better hire and are in a mob mentality of clasping onto something/anything to not believe this is it....especially when the sentimentality seemed to be Gruden or bust.
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Deal is off. Small victory.
Onto John Currie.
Onto John Currie.
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Take Bobby Petrino, please.obucard wrote:And I was worried about UA rehiring Petrino.go birds wrote:even if say, he had "little" knowledge of it. it still [expletive] stinks. you cannot bring someone like that, with that kind of baggage, to come run your money maker. you just cant.
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Did someone testify Schiano saw Sandusky firsthand or did someone testify someone said Schiano saw Sandusky firsthand? I thought it was the later. (ETA: Again, all I'm finding is the later that McQueary said Bradley said Schiano said.... And, Bradley testified under oath that Schiano did not say it. So McQueary testified to double hearsay and the middle man, Bradley, testified the opposite.)Transmogrified Tiger wrote:This is unequivocally true, but people can do the right thing for the wrong reasons. Schiano wasn't some guy who stopped for gas in State College, he was an assistant there for 6 years, and someone testified under oath that he saw Sandusky's behavior first hand.AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote:I kind of get the feeling TN fans wanted a better hire and are in a mob mentality of clasping onto something/anything to not believe this is it....especially when the sentimentality seemed to be Gruden or bust.
I don't want to be wrongly defending someone who ignored this situation. But, I do want to point out that I don't think it's as cut-and-dried as people are making it out to be.
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Guys guys guys
Gruden is on the way.
Gruden is on the way.
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So, if Schiano is out, I'm not sure how Currie can keep his job and still hire a head coach. What coach would feel comfortable coming to work for Currie who has to be seen as an AD on extremely thin ice....
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nah currie aint gonna survive this



