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33anda3rd wrote:Also a lot of free agents declined the opportunity to play with Kobe because he had a rep for being a lousy teammate.

cardsfansince82 wrote:Duncan was the OG "whine about every single call to the refs" guy

True story: on Sunday night I saw Draymond Green get whistled for a foul and actually agree with the call. It was pretty historical.

Historic. Not historical.

#nerd

LOL good catch.
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Kobe’s insistence on being the unconscious chucker was only feasible because he was so damn talented. There were a few games post-injury where he was a lot more deferential and showed a floor game. He really had an understanding and skill level to be an efficient player.

Strange that a first ballot Hall of Famer and finals MVP is one of my bigger NBA “what if”s.

33anda3rd wrote:Duncan: entered league 1997-98, retired after 2015-2016, 5 rings 3X Finals MVP, 2X MVP

I've only really thought about Ray Allen's shot in the context of LeBron's legacy but TD could've had six rings to match Jordan.

Felix The Cat wrote:

33anda3rd wrote:Duncan: entered league 1997-98, retired after 2015-2016, 5 rings 3X Finals MVP, 2X MVP

I've only really thought about Ray Allen's shot in the context of LeBron's legacy but TD could've had six rings to match Jordan.

And if Amare Stoudemire had kept his ass on the bench, TD could have had 4.

This prompted me to misremember the hell out of the Derek Fisher buzzer beater.

C Webb should have at least one ring.

thrill wrote:C Webb should have at least one ring.

And zero analyst jobs. Gosh he’s rough.

cardsfansince82 wrote:Duncan was the OG "whine about every single call to the refs" guy

This begs the question: who would be the first inductees into the Whine About Every Call Hall Of Fame.

Caveats:
must be a great player (sorry, Stephen Jackson and Vlade Divac)
must be a world-class whiner

Duncan, Draymond, Boogie, Kobe, 'Sheed, Reggie Miller, Ginobli, LeBron would make my shortlist.

I'd have CP3 in the mix for sure. I seem to remember a lot of whining from peak Dirk, or maybe that was just Cuban.