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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 15 08, 6:30 pm
by Jocephus
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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 15 08, 6:57 pm
by jim
Radbird wrote:
Richie Allen wrote:I don't think it's been discussed much on this thread but I'd love to see the entire education system revamped so that kids could begin to specialize, or at least lean in a certain direction, at an earlier age than they currently do. Thirteen straight years, some of their most formative years, of very little responsibility and the same few subjects year after year after year. And I think there's enough proof that the current system is not working.
Isn't this similar to what most European countries do? I've heard pros and cons, and you can probably overdo the "specialization" process and end up typecasting kids, but it's certainly worth exploring. And definitely agree, with a daughter who is entering her senior year in college (so I've almost been through the entire 17-year process), that the current system is not working, from either an education or expense standpoint.
Yes. At least in France that I know of.

I too have a Senior in college, and we will pass the $100,000 mark in cost this year. And that's with over $30,000 in scholarship money. It's crazy.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 15 08, 7:31 pm
by UK
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jOTk ... wD937GG7O0
A campaign spokesman says Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin won't speak with an investigator hired by lawmakers to look into the firing of her public safety commissioner.
That's a political mistake not to cooperate.
McCain campaign spokesman Ed O'Callaghan told a news conference Monday that the governor, the Republican nominee for vice president, will not cooperate as long as the investigation "remains tainted."
Ironically, those conducting the interviews consist of 3 republicans and 2 democrats.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/artic ... 75,00.html
Only a few weeks ago, Palin had promised full cooperation with the legislature — "Hold me accountable," she told Alaskans — including testifying in front of the inquiry, which is also looking into allegations that her staff improperly accessed Wooten's personnel file.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 15 08, 8:26 pm
by stlouie_lipp
I don't know how you guys have the energy to keep up with this thread.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 15 08, 8:33 pm
by UK
stlouie_lipp wrote:I don't know how you guys have the energy to keep up with this thread.
It's like a see and say, wait around for awhile pull the string a few times and you'll get the cow mooing a couple of times.

It's all circular.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 15 08, 11:47 pm
by PujolJunkie
In what may be what everybody was waiting for, ABC News has interviewed former Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan:
She's not telling the truth when she told ABC neither she nor her husband pressured me to fire Trooper Wooten," said Walt Monegan, the Alaskan official whose dismissal by Sarah Palin is the focus of a state investigation known as "Troopergate". "And she's not telling the truth to the media about her reasons for firing me."

....

"This is not a 'he said she said' situation. Others were contacted by Todd and Sarah as well," according to Monegan, who said he was confident the investigation would find adequate documentation to corroborate his testimony.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5804703&page=1

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 16 08, 12:01 am
by Freed Roger
PujolJunkie wrote:In what may be what everybody was waiting for, ABC News has interviewed former Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan:
She's not telling the truth when she told ABC neither she nor her husband pressured me to fire Trooper Wooten," said Walt Monegan, the Alaskan official whose dismissal by Sarah Palin is the focus of a state investigation known as "Troopergate". "And she's not telling the truth to the media about her reasons for firing me."

....

"This is not a 'he said she said' situation. Others were contacted by Todd and Sarah as well," according to Monegan, who said he was confident the investigation would find adequate documentation to corroborate his testimony.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5804703&page=1
Let me be the first to say it. Meh.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 16 08, 2:56 am
by PujolJunkie
Freed Roger wrote:
PujolJunkie wrote:In what may be what everybody was waiting for, ABC News has interviewed former Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan:
She's not telling the truth when she told ABC neither she nor her husband pressured me to fire Trooper Wooten," said Walt Monegan, the Alaskan official whose dismissal by Sarah Palin is the focus of a state investigation known as "Troopergate". "And she's not telling the truth to the media about her reasons for firing me."

....

"This is not a 'he said she said' situation. Others were contacted by Todd and Sarah as well," according to Monegan, who said he was confident the investigation would find adequate documentation to corroborate his testimony.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5804703&page=1
Let me be the first to say it. Meh.
Basically, I don't give a [expletive]. I just post things that I know are going to end up media stories and would matter to a lot of people.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 16 08, 6:34 am
by Socnorb11
PujolJunkie wrote:
Freed Roger wrote:
PujolJunkie wrote:In what may be what everybody was waiting for, ABC News has interviewed former Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan:
She's not telling the truth when she told ABC neither she nor her husband pressured me to fire Trooper Wooten," said Walt Monegan, the Alaskan official whose dismissal by Sarah Palin is the focus of a state investigation known as "Troopergate". "And she's not telling the truth to the media about her reasons for firing me."

....

"This is not a 'he said she said' situation. Others were contacted by Todd and Sarah as well," according to Monegan, who said he was confident the investigation would find adequate documentation to corroborate his testimony.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5804703&page=1
Let me be the first to say it. Meh.
Basically, I don't give a [expletive]. I just post things that I know are going to end up media stories and would matter to a lot of people.

I think blatant corruption is relevant. Maybe others don't.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 16 08, 6:48 am
by Radbird
jim wrote:
Radbird wrote:
Richie Allen wrote:I don't think it's been discussed much on this thread but I'd love to see the entire education system revamped so that kids could begin to specialize, or at least lean in a certain direction, at an earlier age than they currently do. Thirteen straight years, some of their most formative years, of very little responsibility and the same few subjects year after year after year. And I think there's enough proof that the current system is not working.
Isn't this similar to what most European countries do? I've heard pros and cons, and you can probably overdo the "specialization" process and end up typecasting kids, but it's certainly worth exploring. And definitely agree, with a daughter who is entering her senior year in college (so I've almost been through the entire 17-year process), that the current system is not working, from either an education or expense standpoint.
Yes. At least in France that I know of.

I too have a Senior in college, and we will pass the $100,000 mark in cost this year. And that's with over $30,000 in scholarship money. It's crazy.
Yep, that sounds familiar. Plus she had a work/study job in the admissions office, and this year will have an outside job too.