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Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 11 10, 7:06 pm
by lukethedrifter
Lunardi at ESPN has 6 A10 teams in at this point. Richmond not at a bad loss. ORU? Yuk.

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 8:54 am
by phins
I just can't believe all 6 A-10 teams will get in. I'm thinking 5 will ultimately make it.

5 out of 14 in a mid major conference is pretty awesome...it would be the second highest percentage since the field expanded to 64 (65), behind the Missouri Valley's 40% in 2004 (2005?).

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 10:09 am
by lukethedrifter
I'd be surprised if six make it as well. Just reinforcing that the Richmond loss isn't terrible.

Anyone paying attention to the power struggle at SLU?

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 11:15 am
by phins
lukethedrifter wrote:I'd be surprised if six make it as well. Just reinforcing that the Richmond loss isn't terrible.

Anyone paying attention to the power struggle at SLU?
It's kind of interesting. It's also hilarious that SLU fans say they are in the A-10 because it aligns with their academic philiosophy better, yet they have players missing a week of class for trips to Philly? Wow...I didn't realize it was quite that bad.

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 11:58 am
by TimeForGuinness
phinstd wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:I'd be surprised if six make it as well. Just reinforcing that the Richmond loss isn't terrible.

Anyone paying attention to the power struggle at SLU?
It's kind of interesting. It's also hilarious that SLU fans say they are in the A-10 because it aligns with their academic philiosophy better, yet they have players missing a week of class for trips to Philly? Wow...I didn't realize it was quite that bad.
A10 pros:
-Strong conference
-Jesuit rivals

A10 cons:
-Geographic travel nightmare
-No geographic rival in conference

Majerus doesn't want to travel that far that often...on commercial flights (since SLU got rid of their chartered flights). He wants to switch to the MVC, but I think that is currently a step down, IMHO. Plus, St. Louis would lose the MVC tourney because it needs a neutral location.

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 12:24 pm
by lukethedrifter
TimeForGuinness wrote:
phinstd wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:I'd be surprised if six make it as well. Just reinforcing that the Richmond loss isn't terrible.

Anyone paying attention to the power struggle at SLU?
It's kind of interesting. It's also hilarious that SLU fans say they are in the A-10 because it aligns with their academic philiosophy better, yet they have players missing a week of class for trips to Philly? Wow...I didn't realize it was quite that bad.
A10 pros:
-Strong conference
-Jesuit rivals

A10 cons:
-Geographic travel nightmare
-No geographic rival in conference

Majerus doesn't want to travel that far that often...on commercial flights (since SLU got rid of their chartered flights). He wants to switch to the MVC, but I think that is currently a step down, IMHO. Plus, St. Louis would lose the MVC tourney because it needs a neutral location.
Still think that peeps are hoping for the Shangri La that is the Mostly Catholic Conference. SLU, Creighton, Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, maybe Detroit Mercy, Xavier and whoever else they could get.
I don't think the MVC is planning on moving the tourney no matter what. Went through that a couple years back and St Louis just works so well for them. Plus conference is HQ'd on Chouteau.

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 1:04 pm
by TimeForGuinness
lukethedrifter wrote:
TimeForGuinness wrote:
phinstd wrote:
lukethedrifter wrote:I'd be surprised if six make it as well. Just reinforcing that the Richmond loss isn't terrible.

Anyone paying attention to the power struggle at SLU?
It's kind of interesting. It's also hilarious that SLU fans say they are in the A-10 because it aligns with their academic philiosophy better, yet they have players missing a week of class for trips to Philly? Wow...I didn't realize it was quite that bad.
A10 pros:
-Strong conference
-Jesuit rivals

A10 cons:
-Geographic travel nightmare
-No geographic rival in conference

Majerus doesn't want to travel that far that often...on commercial flights (since SLU got rid of their chartered flights). He wants to switch to the MVC, but I think that is currently a step down, IMHO. Plus, St. Louis would lose the MVC tourney because it needs a neutral location.
Still think that peeps are hoping for the Shangri La that is the Mostly Catholic Conference. SLU, Creighton, Dayton, DePaul, Marquette, maybe Detroit Mercy, Xavier and whoever else they could get.
I don't think the MVC is planning on moving the tourney no matter what. Went through that a couple years back and St Louis just works so well for them. Plus conference is HQ'd on Chouteau.
The "MCC" conference would be awesome...as for the MVC, I've seen weirder things happen no matter how often it "works well for them".

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 1:05 pm
by phins
FWIW, while I do think it's cyclical, I agree that the A-10 is presently a better conference than the MVC.

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 1:12 pm
by lukethedrifter
phinstd wrote:FWIW, while I do think it's cyclical, I agree that the A-10 is presently a better conference than the MVC.
but the question is, is it a better conf for SLU?


well, at least that's the question for SLU fans.

Re: 2009-2010 NCCA Basketball thread

Posted: February 12 10, 1:30 pm
by phins
lukethedrifter wrote:
phinstd wrote:FWIW, while I do think it's cyclical, I agree that the A-10 is presently a better conference than the MVC.
but the question is, is it a better conf for SLU?


well, at least that's the question for SLU fans.
I'd have to say no...there are just too many negatives, and unless one is willing to state that the MVC = not a strong conference, that cancels out one of the positives for the A-10.

With all due repsect to Majerus, the only reason the MVC would be excited to take on SLU is because of the market. The team isn't very good, and is only decent in basketball and soccer (that I know of). The MVC would gladly take them, but due to business reasons more than performance reasons.