That is all....back to the regularly scheduled bickering, finger pointing, name calling, etc. (I kid, of course! Trying to keep it light!
Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus (Update: Finalized!)
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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus pending physicals
I won't read all of the pages....just want to chime in and say that I'm all for it. Despite Tony's overtures to make amends, Scott does not like him and (according to Bernie) he doesn't have close friends on the team. In short, he won a ring but he's no longer happy here....had to get something for him and (fingers crossed!) Glaus will fit in and do just fine.
That is all....back to the regularly scheduled bickering, finger pointing, name calling, etc. (I kid, of course! Trying to keep it light!
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That is all....back to the regularly scheduled bickering, finger pointing, name calling, etc. (I kid, of course! Trying to keep it light!
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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus pending physicals
Wow, I can't believe we are getting cash in this deal. If anything I thought we would be the ones to give some up.
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watch Rolen fail and really leave us in a bind.
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My understanding is we still owe Toronto the difference between $4 mil and $1.88 mil = $2.12 mil.stldogget05 wrote:Wow, I can't believe we are getting cash in this deal. If anything I thought we would be the ones to give some up.
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Oh ok. I hadn't seen the part about 4 million.
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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus pending physicals
Glaus has worn #25 since 2001 when he was with the Angels. I wonder if the Cards are ready to re-issue that number.
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My quick analysis, and I hope that this doesn't get lost in the 10,000 posts this thread is sure to eventually generate.
Going back two seasons now, the offense's biggest problem is that the productivity that we got in '04 and '05 from Edmonds, Rolen, and Walker was not there anymore. Walker had retired, and Edmonds and Rolen were no longer producing at their previously lofty levels.
Now, we could have gone into this season with the same ol', same ol'--Edmonds in CF, Rolen at 3B. Fan favorites! Hitting in their usual 4/5 spots in the lineup. Well that wasn't doing the job anymore--I contend that the Cardinals would have made the playoffs last year had they had two 120+ OPS+ hitters in those spots instead of 89 Rolen and 88 Edmonds. We're obviously not happy about it--we're trading away two fan favorites here--but we're saving money, and we have gotten back at least one consistent 120+ OPS+ hitter in Glaus (hopefully). Edmonds hasn't been replaced yet, but Rasmus is on the radar, and I'm not sure how much worse we'll be with Ludwick/Skip Scott shouldering that load in the meantime.
As for Walker, he's never been replaced. However, Ankiel+Duncan vs. Walker+Sanders--this might end up being pretty close.
We're probably never going to see the 2004 MV3 again. It was a magical combination of 3 superstars having near career years at the same exact time, along with a good supporting cast. It was a great year, and sadly didn't end with a championship. But I'll always cherish memories of that, and conveniently forget how it ended in St. Louis for Edmonds and Rolen.
OK, that ended up not being so brief, but in summary--while the names hurt to see go--the Cardinals are probably a better team now that they've moved on from Edmonds and Rolen.
Going back two seasons now, the offense's biggest problem is that the productivity that we got in '04 and '05 from Edmonds, Rolen, and Walker was not there anymore. Walker had retired, and Edmonds and Rolen were no longer producing at their previously lofty levels.
Now, we could have gone into this season with the same ol', same ol'--Edmonds in CF, Rolen at 3B. Fan favorites! Hitting in their usual 4/5 spots in the lineup. Well that wasn't doing the job anymore--I contend that the Cardinals would have made the playoffs last year had they had two 120+ OPS+ hitters in those spots instead of 89 Rolen and 88 Edmonds. We're obviously not happy about it--we're trading away two fan favorites here--but we're saving money, and we have gotten back at least one consistent 120+ OPS+ hitter in Glaus (hopefully). Edmonds hasn't been replaced yet, but Rasmus is on the radar, and I'm not sure how much worse we'll be with Ludwick/Skip Scott shouldering that load in the meantime.
As for Walker, he's never been replaced. However, Ankiel+Duncan vs. Walker+Sanders--this might end up being pretty close.
We're probably never going to see the 2004 MV3 again. It was a magical combination of 3 superstars having near career years at the same exact time, along with a good supporting cast. It was a great year, and sadly didn't end with a championship. But I'll always cherish memories of that, and conveniently forget how it ended in St. Louis for Edmonds and Rolen.
OK, that ended up not being so brief, but in summary--while the names hurt to see go--the Cardinals are probably a better team now that they've moved on from Edmonds and Rolen.
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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus pending physicals
<Insert comment about Mitchell Report here>Radbird wrote:Glaus has worn #25 since 2001 when he was with the Angels. I wonder if the Cards are ready to re-issue that number.
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WOHOO! Even better.robbotis wrote:Per A Toronto reportet of KFNS, Glaus passed his physical. The Cards are geting $1.8 million in cash as well.

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Re: Scott Rolen for Troy Glaus pending physicals
planet pujolsian wrote:My understanding is we still owe Toronto the difference between $4 mil and $1.88 mil = $2.12 mil.stldogget05 wrote:Wow, I can't believe we are getting cash in this deal. If anything I thought we would be the ones to give some up.
DOH.


