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Re: FIST JABBIN' TERRORIST VS. SENILE OLD MAN: THE THREAD

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pop_haines wrote: My impression is that McCain has gone extremely
negative, and it's paid off well for him. Obama's
failure is the failure of all Democrats for the last
ten years: they go on the defensive rather than
throwing haymakers.
I was speaking with my brother a month ago, who is convinced Obama will lose. But my brother's point was an interesting one--Republicans can win with negative campaigns, but Democrats have to win the "good governance" argument to get elected.

Take it for what it's worth. But at the end of the day, Obama has to convince voters that he will be a good manager--which McCain's "celebrity" ads have been designed to question.

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Here's an interesting story on Obama's VP choice:

http://www.someguywithawebsite.com/blog ... tml#002614

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But at the end of the day, Obama has to convince voters that he will be a good manager--which McCain's "celebrity" ads have been designed to question.
I think that's really a core issue for a lot of people who might find themselves in the swing vote category. McCain has been their longtime self-proclaimed champion. Obama saddled himself with the true democratic left in the primaries and has had and will continue to have trouble (imo) convincing avg. joe middle-of-the-roader that he's their candidate.

They've got a pretty strong idea of who McCain is from his long history in the spotlight, and the "maverick" mantra (real or perceived) has stuck. They really haven't seen Obama do much more than make speeches.


(No offense intended to Obama fans, just trying to capture what I think casual followers of politics who fall in the true independent/fence-sitter mindset could think.)

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What effect does the possible withdrawl agreement with Iraq have on the election?

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McCain's housing gaffe has really swung the media narrative. This is just the break Obama needed. And to show why it is relevant:

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My mother is going to be pleased with saving that $350.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:McCain's housing gaffe has really swung the media narrative. This is just the break Obama needed. And to show why it is relevant:

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My mother is going to be pleased with saving that $350.

Cool, another reason to vote McCain. Tax cuts for EVERYONE.

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Not sure if this has been posted in here or in another thread.

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Too funny, Popeye. Did you see the related video ("This is a video response to McCain Girl and The Enchanted Republican Forest")?

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letsgocards89 wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:McCain's housing gaffe has really swung the media narrative. This is just the break Obama needed. And to show why it is relevant:

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My mother is going to be pleased with saving that $350.

Cool, another reason to vote McCain. Tax cuts for EVERYONE.
You must make a lot of money.

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GatewaySnayke wrote:
letsgocards89 wrote:
GatewaySnayke wrote:McCain's housing gaffe has really swung the media narrative. This is just the break Obama needed. And to show why it is relevant:

Image

My mother is going to be pleased with saving that $350.

Cool, another reason to vote McCain. Tax cuts for EVERYONE.
You must make a lot of money.
Not really. According to that graph both plans affect me about the same.

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