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Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 3:08 pm
by UK
JL21 wrote:
UK wrote:Odd random thought of the day, if JFK Jr. was alive and pursued a career in politics, this would like have been the year of his running for office, correct?

John John, when god created someone to run for office they molded him.

He had the qualities:

1)Political family
2)Intelligence
3)Good looking
4)Charisma
He didn't have any interest in it, though, did he? He was almost 40 when he died and had pursued everything else besides politics- publishing, aviation, a failed attempt at law...

I never got the positive vibes from JFK, Jr. that others did.
No, he never wanted to go that route as I metioned above, but the stars would've aligned nicely over the last 8 years had he decided to pursue politics.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 3:11 pm
by docellis
tothebeach08 wrote: The only vibes I ever got from JFK, Jr were good, really good.

++

not the best pick but the one with the last clothes
Image

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 3:12 pm
by jim
Too bad he couldn't fly a plane in the soup...

(ducks)

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 3:17 pm
by GatewaySnayke
I am leery of this "MFI" that John McCain keeps talking about.

Was this drawn up by his BFF Phil Gramm?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 3:19 pm
by tothebeach08
Great pic Doc!

He may not have been the best at flying a plane, but I am sure he had other outstanding talents. Just to look at him would have been enough to do it.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 3:50 pm
by obucard
JL21 wrote:
UK wrote:Odd random thought of the day, if JFK Jr. was alive and pursued a career in politics, this would like have been the year of his running for office, correct?

John John, when god created someone to run for office they molded him.

He had the qualities:

1)Political family
2)Intelligence
3)Good looking
4)Charisma
He didn't have any interest in it, though, did he?
From what I've seen, that's actually a plus.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 5:46 pm
by Arthur Dent
BW23 wrote:Obama is completely scripted. Just watch when his teleprompter goes out, which it does. But now it's with him all the time.
Another totally scripted encounter with Obama:

http://www.nhelects.com/NHPrimaryVideos ... le=VLTitle

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Radbird wrote:Here's the problem I'm having with McCain. I'm sensing that a large amount of McCain's (and Palin's) comments are driven by "talking point" type information shoved in front of him just before his appearances. That's why we're seeing muddled, inconsistent and somewhat contradictory responses from him. I know this is true of all campaigns to some extent, but it looks to be more prevalent with McCain/Palin than with Obama/Biden.

Maybe they're just better "actors", but I don't get such a scripted feeling from Obama or Biden.
I think we should be wary about choosing a candidate based on who has the best marketing. All candidates use talking points to some extent as they are answering the same questions over and over again. There's nothing wrong with that. If we think candidates are using talking points to cover for ignorance or for purposes of misrepresentation then that's a problem, but it seems to me, that the far more important issue is the content rather than whether it seems to come in scripted form or not. These news interviews, I think, do a pretty good job of drawing out the candidates beyond the scripts.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 6:08 pm
by obucard

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 6:35 pm
by doe_boy
I wish I had written that.

It's exactly how I feel.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: The Thread

Posted: September 19 08, 6:42 pm
by BW23
Arthur Dent wrote:
BW23 wrote:Obama is completely scripted. Just watch when his teleprompter goes out, which it does. But now it's with him all the time.
Another totally scripted encounter with Obama:

http://www.nhelects.com/NHPrimaryVideos ... le=VLTitle

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Radbird wrote:Here's the problem I'm having with McCain. I'm sensing that a large amount of McCain's (and Palin's) comments are driven by "talking point" type information shoved in front of him just before his appearances. That's why we're seeing muddled, inconsistent and somewhat contradictory responses from him. I know this is true of all campaigns to some extent, but it looks to be more prevalent with McCain/Palin than with Obama/Biden.

Maybe they're just better "actors", but I don't get such a scripted feeling from Obama or Biden.
I think we should be wary about choosing a candidate based on who has the best marketing. All candidates use talking points to some extent as they are answering the same questions over and over again. There's nothing wrong with that. If we think candidates are using talking points to cover for ignorance or for purposes of misrepresentation then that's a problem, but it seems to me, that the far more important issue is the content rather than whether it seems to come in scripted form or not. These news interviews, I think, do a pretty good job of drawing out the candidates beyond the scripts.
So would having some town hall debates. But only one guy wants to do that.