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AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote: Rather or not Schiano is a great football coach, I don't know. I mean, on the one hand, he has NFL experience and turned Rutgers into a decent if not great at points team which is something. I'm sure some coaches would speak highly of him. What's got to be worrying, at some level for TN fans, is why was he chosen? Currie may be a dip [expletive], okay. But, I mean, he also had to know better than anyone who was available and who would come to TN. I know everyone wants Gruden, but you can't just snap your fingers and make Gruden come to TN. Same for Matt Campbell. Same for Dan Mullen. Same for every person out there.

All that said, I completely understand the frustration. But, I also think a lot of it had to do with expectations that were just completely out of line in Knoxville. Currie, imo, should have done his vetting before hiring Schiano and if he was comfortable with it just stuck to his guns and said this is going to be the football coach and this is why and the PSU stuff is nothing to worry about and this is why. If he couldn't do that, then he should immediately be fired, yes. Hell, he should be fired for backing down...I think it's just a matter of time at this point.

But, that's even worse for TN. Going back to the aTm hire of Fisher. It's clear that there has to be some sort of trust with the administration/AD. Mullen and Strickland worked together at MS State. Luke obviously has a relationship with Bjork. Orgeron was always an LSU guy. Etc. Some lack of trust can be overcome with money, but not always. It's why in Arkansas, all the rumors that included Malzahn included letting Malzahn pick or strongly influence the AD hire. And, it's why Currie is toxic right now at TN. Can't imagine how they are going to recruit anyone to coach now unless that same stipulation gets added (coach gets to pick the AD).

I hope everything works out for TN and they get a guy they're happy with. It's no fun to have to not be a fan anymore because of a coach. But, today...was something else.
I mentioned this up thread already, but tennessee brings in the 2nd most money in college football. And we are expected to just accept more mediocrity in Greg Schiano? A coach that was hired after going rogue and hiring on his own even after everyone in the department questioned the choice? You know who leaked the story? The Assistant AD. you know when the assistant AD leaked it? While Currie was a plane to columbus ohio to finalize the deal.

You can make the argument that schiano is a good coach, but there's an even better argument that he is simply mediocre. Aside from the fact that he is a scumbag, his players hated playing for him.

There was legit mutual interest between UT and Gruden, but the reasonable ones in the gruden camp knew that it prolly wasnt really going to happen. But that is the type of hire we expected. And rightfully so.

The customers spoke up and won this round.

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GB, I don't know that we'll ever get a top line head coach in there with the clown show that UT has become. The best we can hope for is they hire someone who is unheralded but turns out to be a fantastic coach who wins big and raises the bar again.

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Lane Kiffin man. Bring Tee home. Bring Kevin Steele home. Bring em all home.

Lane Kiffin would spend his entire career either beating the [expletive] out of Saban or trying his hardest to beat the [expletive] out of saban.

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go birds wrote:
AWvsCBsteeeerike3 wrote: Rather or not Schiano is a great football coach, I don't know. I mean, on the one hand, he has NFL experience and turned Rutgers into a decent if not great at points team which is something. I'm sure some coaches would speak highly of him. What's got to be worrying, at some level for TN fans, is why was he chosen? Currie may be a dip [expletive], okay. But, I mean, he also had to know better than anyone who was available and who would come to TN. I know everyone wants Gruden, but you can't just snap your fingers and make Gruden come to TN. Same for Matt Campbell. Same for Dan Mullen. Same for every person out there.

All that said, I completely understand the frustration. But, I also think a lot of it had to do with expectations that were just completely out of line in Knoxville. Currie, imo, should have done his vetting before hiring Schiano and if he was comfortable with it just stuck to his guns and said this is going to be the football coach and this is why and the PSU stuff is nothing to worry about and this is why. If he couldn't do that, then he should immediately be fired, yes. Hell, he should be fired for backing down...I think it's just a matter of time at this point.

But, that's even worse for TN. Going back to the aTm hire of Fisher. It's clear that there has to be some sort of trust with the administration/AD. Mullen and Strickland worked together at MS State. Luke obviously has a relationship with Bjork. Orgeron was always an LSU guy. Etc. Some lack of trust can be overcome with money, but not always. It's why in Arkansas, all the rumors that included Malzahn included letting Malzahn pick or strongly influence the AD hire. And, it's why Currie is toxic right now at TN. Can't imagine how they are going to recruit anyone to coach now unless that same stipulation gets added (coach gets to pick the AD).

I hope everything works out for TN and they get a guy they're happy with. It's no fun to have to not be a fan anymore because of a coach. But, today...was something else.
I mentioned this up thread already, but tennessee brings in the 2nd most money in college football. And we are expected to just accept more mediocrity in Greg Schiano? A coach that was hired after going rogue and hiring on his own even after everyone in the department questioned the choice? You know who leaked the story? The Assistant AD. you know when the assistant AD leaked it? While Currie was a plane to columbus ohio to finalize the deal.

You can make the argument that schiano is a good coach, but there's an even better argument that he is simply mediocre. Aside from the fact that he is a scumbag, his players hated playing for him.

There was legit mutual interest between UT and Gruden, but the reasonable ones in the gruden camp knew that it prolly wasnt really going to happen. But that is the type of hire we expected. And rightfully so.

The customers spoke up and won this round.
Who do you want them to hire?

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BTW, I was listening to Knoxville sports talk and one of the hosts claims he was told that Jimmy Haslam was behind the hire. The same Haslam that wanted to hire Schiano as coach for the Browns
Bill Belichick and Urban Meyer were strong in recommendations for fired Tampa Bay coach Greg Schiano—Belichick called twice—and here’s where I hear there was a major rift in the organization. Banner wanted nothing to do with Schiano. Haslam was intrigued with him after the over-the-top recommendation from Belichick. The group flew to Tampa to interview Schiano, and one source said Banner was cold to Schiano, not participating much in the interview. Banner likely thought Schiano would be a disastrous hire, given all the negatives in recent Cleveland history. He was probably right, but the owner was open to it, and when the owner’s open to it, the man running football operations should at least consider it.
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yea this has haslam's fingerprints all over it. He's also the reason why currie was hired and not blackburn (a UT guy). Currie is a puppet and a yes man.

Bev Davenport is also a [expletive] moron. Who is responsible for her? Ole man Haslam.

UT is a goddamn mess.

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go birds wrote:yea this has haslam's fingerprints all over it. He's also the reason why currie was hired and not blackburn (a UT guy). Currie is a puppet and a yes man.

Bev Davenport is also a [expletive] moron. Who is responsible for her? Ole man Haslam.

UT is a goddamn mess.
I bet you wish he’d just go back to cheating truckers.

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naw i dont want him cheating anyone, especially truckers

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Tim wrote:I just think it’s funny that Clay Travis, outspoken critic of social media mobs, just hijacked the leadership of the tennessencoaching search via a social media mob.

Never change Tennessee.
You've gotta be kidding me.

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lukethedrifter wrote:
go birds wrote:yea this has haslam's fingerprints all over it. He's also the reason why currie was hired and not blackburn (a UT guy). Currie is a puppet and a yes man.

Bev Davenport is also a [expletive] moron. Who is responsible for her? Ole man Haslam.

UT is a goddamn mess.
I bet you wish he’d just go back to cheating truckers.
At least it would be something he's good at.

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