Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

[PujolJunkie]

Per PPP, North Carolina Polling:

Q1 The candidates for President are Libertarian
Bob Barr, Republican John McCain, and
Democrat Barack Obama. If the election was
today, who would you vote for? If Bob Barr,
press 1. If John McCain, press 2. If Barack
Obama, press 3. If you’re undecided, press 4.

Barr................................................................. 5%
McCain............................................................ 46%
Obama............................................................ 46%
Undecided....................................................... 4%

Q3 I am going to name 7 issues. Which of these is
most important to you? The War in Iraq,
education, the economy and jobs, taxes, moral
or family values, health care, or immigration. If
the War in Iraq is most important, press 1. If
education, press 2. If the economy and jobs,
press 3. If taxes, press 4. If moral and family
values, press 5. If health care, press 6. If
immigration, press 7. If some other issue is
most important, press 8.

War in Iraq ...................................................... 11%
Education........................................................ 5%
Economy and Jobs ......................................... 58%
Taxes.............................................................. 6%
Moral and family values .................................. 10%
Health care ..................................................... 4%
Immigration ..................................................... 4%
Other............................................................... 2%

[ghostrunner]

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Q3 I am going to name 7 issues. Which of these is
most important to you? The War in Iraq,
education, the economy and jobs, taxes, moral
or family values, health care, or immigration. If
the War in Iraq is most important, press 1. If
education, press 2. If the economy and jobs,
press 3. If taxes, press 4. If moral and family
values, press 5. If health care, press 6. If
immigration, press 7. If some other issue is
most important, press 8.

War in Iraq ...................................................... 11%
Education........................................................ 5%
Economy and Jobs ......................................... 58%
Taxes.............................................................. 6%
Moral and family values .................................. 10%
Health care ..................................................... 4%
Immigration ..................................................... 4%
Other............................................................... 2%

This is interesting. I wonder how representative it is of nationwide preferences.I wonder how the results would have looked 3 weeks ago, prior to all the bailouts.

It would be nice if people could rank these issues, instead of picking which is most important. I imagine the results would be quite different.

Also, instead of asking "which issue is most important", they should ask "which issue do you feel the government should address most?" Moral values might be important to you, but I wonder how active these people think government ought to be in that area.

[UK]

My bi-weekly posting of a very good article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/opini ... edman.html

I agree with the need towards striving for energy evolution as well as what I would want to see from each candidate.

[UK]

http://www.contingencies.org/septoct08/mccain.pdf

From last Fall:

McCain's health care goals:

One of the more concerning quotes:

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.

[Radbird]

4000 posts?

you bastard!

BW is pissed.

Oh well. I probably need to bow out of the thread completely.

It'll be a better thread from here on out if you don't.

[UK]

Agreed, I prefer reading opinions that disagree rather than agree.

[lukethedrifter]

3 reasons not to vote for Obama: the three loud, obnoxious gals sitting next to and interrupting me at brunch yesterday while on break from electioneering in the neighborhood.


Anyway, here's my idea for how to make inroads in "small town America." I want to start an information campaign where volunteers don't push people to vote for Barack Obama, they just ask that they don't vote against him based on bad information. Then, briefly but fully, explain and inform where Obama actually stands on various issues, working to dispel the myths that Democrats are weak, Democrats are elitists and that Obama wants to give the keys to America to Louis Farakkhan.

[Freed Roger]

3 reasons not to vote for Obama: the three loud, obnoxious gals sitting next to and interrupting me at brunch yesterday while on break from electioneering in the neighborhood.


Anyway, here's my idea for how to make inroads in "small town America." I want to start an information campaign where volunteers don't push people to vote for Barack Obama, they just ask that they don't vote against him based on bad information. Then, briefly but fully, explain and inform where Obama actually stands on various issues, working to dispel the myths that Democrats are weak, Democrats are elitists and that Obama wants to give the keys to America to Louis Farakkhan.

Your right.

Some of the people working FOR Obama tend to do more harm than good for their cause. I can picture the people you are talking about. Someone needs to send them into an urban democrat Siberia where they can preach to the choir, rather than out to mixed neighborhoods where they will just scare people.

most the people I deal with daily lean republican. subtle nudges to the center work with them, if anything. (not like I write here ).

With 20 out of the last 28 years under GOP belts, their mythology is entrenched into presidential politics. So, for some - the concept of voting for a democrat, a black one with a weird name nonetheless, is a foreign concept.

Supporters of Obama just need to let people know that its OK to vote for him. Maybe put a bumper sticker on your car (the O emblems are cool) but ten bumper stickers -NO. If you have a bumper sticker on rusty Taurus that says "Legalize Marijuana", sit this one out, don't put a Obama sticker on too. if any, put a McCain sticker on it.

Yard signs - Maybe one. I'm not sure I like them.

at local community carnival yesterday, here in mixed-politics MO, the Obama people did a good job. They showed restraind, non-pushy support for Obama. They handed out stickers and merchandise if you came up to them, not the other way around. They weren't going around hassling people, ruining their fun. The McCain people weren't around.

Again, Obama suppoters needs to take the high road, focus on truths, not conspiracies.

[Popeye_Card]

3 reasons not to vote for Obama: the three loud, obnoxious gals sitting next to and interrupting me at brunch yesterday while on break from electioneering in the neighborhood.

On this note, I'm sure you've seen the large Obama mural painted on the side of The Royale on Kingshighway. I appreciate their support and all, and I know they're "official" Obama posters, but the way it's on there looks like communist propaganda posters.

For those not in StL, I'm sure you know the posters I'm talking about.



There's 3 of them on there. I believe it's Change, Hope, and Progress.

[PujolJunkie]

Daily Tracking Update:

Gallup - O 49(-1 from yesterday), M 45(+1 from yesterday)
Rasmussen - O 48(0), M 47(0)
Research 2000 - O 49(-1), M 42(0)
Diageo/Hotline - O 45(0), M 44(0)