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Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:27 pm
by UK
jim wrote:
UK wrote:
jim wrote:With poll numbers nosediving for McCain he needed to do something to stop the bleeding. I know this isn't scientific, but AOL has 55/45 his decision was "thumbs down", and 55/38 on saying the debates should continue. I don't believe for one second that even 38% of people in this country don't realize this is just a campaign stunt. They will support their candidate and say the right thing, but no way to they believe that.

I haven't heard what is going on but I hope Obama doesn't back out of the debate. If McCain does, fine. But Obama absolutely should not bow to this imo.
Obama has already said that he will attend the debate and the debate commission is going thru with the debate.

It's not even the democrats that are holding this up, it's the anti-big gov't congressmen that are unlikely to support this action. Personally, I would veto this bill as well.
So what happens if he's the only one there? Does he get like 2 hours of free air time to just talk?
McCain would be getting suicide and there's not a snowballs chance in hell that he doesn't show.

If he didn't show, Obama would get the questions and free air-time in front of the 50-75 million that will likely watch it.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:29 pm
by ghostrunner
Obama:
"It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one thing at once,"
Oh, snap.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:29 pm
by clevername
they have to have equal time on the networks, right?

does McCain forfeit his time by not showing up and Obama still gets it? It could be a 2 hour national speech for the Obama campaign.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:30 pm
by UK
clevername wrote:they have to have equal time on the networks, right?

does McCain forfeit his time by not showing up and Obama still gets it? It could be a 2 hour national speech for the Obama campaign.
They get equal air-time, I can't remember the exact adjustments towards this debate as well as the veep debate, but they are as equal and non-partisan as possible.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:33 pm
by Socnorb11
UK wrote:
Socnorb11 wrote:
UK wrote:
BW23 wrote:Please. If I had said half of what was said here today in reference to Obama, I'd get called out left and right by a number of people.

Seriously. It's not worth my time.

And the elitist and cowardly comment was, well, one of the more stupid things in this thread.
Then speak your mind instead of hiding behind wannabe omnipotent rhetoric. Stand up for your views, it seems like you have no backbone b/c you're the minority in this thread with your views and therefore unwilling to speak your mind.

Look at this message board, what team do I support?
I think that the MLB playoffs should be cancelled because of the current financial crisis. UK, how about you and I make a joint stance on this?! Do it for the country, my friend!
You're throwing a hail mary to try and avoid the topic at hand.

(How much more talented the Cubs are compared to the rest of the NL)
Nah..... just havin' a little fun with you. I'm rooting for your guy and (believe it or not) your team (for personal reasons).

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:36 pm
by UK
ghostrunner wrote:Obama:
"It is going to be part of the president's job to deal with more than one thing at once,"
Oh, snap.
That's the right thing to say, IMO.

Obama hasn't been anything special in this crisis, he hasn't given any of his plans to the public, but he has remained level-headed and not reaching for straws.

This is where he has done what McCain should've done as he seems to be giving an answer every day, even if it goes against what he said the previous day.

Fundamentals are strong. Now, it could be like the depression by Monday. He was against bailing out AIG, the next day he was for it. He wanted to fire the chairman of the SEC, he wanted to create a 9/11-like commission, now he wants to go the Congress and delay the debate to get this done.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:39 pm
by Michael
Check out Palin's interview with Katie Couric:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/ ... 6173.shtml


She's horrible. I can't believe she might be president one day.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:46 pm
by Socnorb11
Michael wrote:Check out Palin's interview with Katie Couric:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/ ... 6173.shtml


She's horrible. I can't believe she might be president one day.

Couric: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

Palin: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie - that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

Couric: But can you give me any other concrete examples? Because I know you've said Barack Obama is a lot of talk and no action. Can you give me any other examples in his 26 years of John McCain truly taking a stand on this?

Palin: I can give you examples of things that John McCain has done, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is what America needs today.

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.
Oh my. :shock:

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:47 pm
by jim
I managed to listen to the entire thing. When she finished by "I'll try to find you some and I'll bring 'em to ya'" ... chilling.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry honestly.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. Palin/McCain: The Thread

Posted: September 24 08, 7:48 pm
by clevername
she just gives canned generic answers to everything.

I mean, every politician does, but she's on the level of a high schooler running for class president.