Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

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ATP works if you have a large payroll.

ATP does not work for the St. Louis Cardinals.

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haltz wrote:
July 18 23, 1:22 pm
Burleson is in LF today hahaha
and no O'Neill

great game yesterday Carlson! you're benched though!

I swear...we talk about Noot's OBP game, but carlson has a 450 OBP in July so far, and a 418 OBP in June

fun fact, but Carlson hit 289/418/511 for an OPS of 929 in June

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dmarx114 wrote:
July 18 23, 1:35 pm
ATP works if you have a large payroll.

ATP does not work for the St. Louis Cardinals.
Can't say it doesn't work if you've never tried it.

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
July 18 23, 1:28 pm
ATP. Always Trade Prospects.
Trading prospects is part of how the Cardinals got to where they are today, even if I think two of the trades that backfired terribly (Ozuna/Arozarena) were rational at the time.

Padres are likely going to miss the POs and didn't win the pennant after going all-in on Soto.

I'm for trading prospects when it makes sense. Trading for Soto wasn't one of those times.

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How far off are Graceffo, Hence, and McGreevy?

If those three could even be 3-4-5 starters (in any order of names), it makes the process of rebuilding the rotation that much easier. you’re still having to spend big bucks or trade great prospects if you want a #1 or #2 though.

I think we’re at least 2 to 3 years away from having a great rotation again.

And I’m aware that the idea of #1-#5 starters is antiquated. The point is, we could have some decent pitching depth while still lacking the game one of the playoffs ace

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Lesson wrote:
July 18 23, 1:38 pm
MrCrowesGarden wrote:
July 18 23, 1:28 pm
ATP. Always Trade Prospects.
Trading prospects is part of how the Cardinals got to where they are today, even if I think two of the trades that backfired terribly (Ozuna/Arozarena) were rational at the time.

Padres are likely going to miss the POs and didn't win the pennant after going all-in on Soto.

I'm for trading prospects when it makes sense. Trading for Soto wasn't one of those times.
Arozarena was a prospect for prospect trade. Ozuna was the rare miss.

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I also have no interest in trading with the rays. If they like one of your prospects, you should probably keep him. If they like Flaherty, it probably means we don’t know what the hell we’re doing and can’t fix him.

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People are really running with this O’Neill-Carlson story. These things get sorted out. There’s no need to trade Carlson while his value is rock bottom. My guess is he stays.

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MrCrowesGarden wrote:
July 18 23, 1:36 pm
dmarx114 wrote:
July 18 23, 1:35 pm
ATP works if you have a large payroll.

ATP does not work for the St. Louis Cardinals.
Can't say it doesn't work if you've never tried it.
I don't need to eat dog crap to know it doesn't taste good.

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