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ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

Would you stop it already? I'm as fatigued by the negativity as anyone, but there have been legit gripes with Tony for years and particularly last night. If you want to make an argument in his favor, then take the time and do it. This passive-aggressive curt dismissal thing is tiresome no matter who does it.

wart57 wrote:

themiddle54 wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

I'll raise that bet. I highly doubt STL fans, Tony haters or acolytes, are enjoying having 8-10 bona fide stupid LaRussa decisions to kick around this morning. I'd think more likely the Tony haters, like the defenders, are miserable this morning about what they witnessed last night.

I am not that upset actually. The guys didn't hit when they needed a hit. That, more than any Tony decision cost the Cards the game. If you can't see that, in my opinion, you are letting your hatred for TLR cloud your judgement. Did TLR [expletive] up last night, hell yea he did, but the players did not make the plays they are paid to make.
The Craig bunt put men on 2nd and 3rd with less than 1 out, I would take any day with Albert and Matt coming up. If Craig grounds in to a DP, I bet there would have been a ton of second guessers there blasting Tony for not bunting.

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

Would you stop it already? I'm as fatigued by the negativity as anyone, but there have been legit gripes with Tony for years and particularly last night. If you want to make an argument in his favor, then take the time and do it. This passive-aggressive curt dismissal thing is tiresome no matter who does it.

I have made several arguments. If you don't want to take the time to read them, that's on you.

dmarx114 wrote:

wart57 wrote:

themiddle54 wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

I'll raise that bet. I highly doubt STL fans, Tony haters or acolytes, are enjoying having 8-10 bona fide stupid LaRussa decisions to kick around this morning. I'd think more likely the Tony haters, like the defenders, are miserable this morning about what they witnessed last night.

I am not that upset actually. The guys didn't hit when they needed a hit. That, more than any Tony decision cost the Cards the game. If you can't see that, in my opinion, you are letting your hatred for TLR cloud your judgement. Did TLR [expletive] up last night, hell yea he did, but the players did not make the plays they are paid to make.
The Craig bunt put men on 2nd and 3rd with less than 1 out, I would take any day with Albert and Matt coming up. If Craig grounds in to a DP, I bet there would have been a ton of second guessers there blasting Tony for not bunting.

That situation never happened.

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

Would you stop it already? I'm as fatigued by the negativity as anyone, but there have been legit gripes with Tony for years and particularly last night. If you want to make an argument in his favor, then take the time and do it. This passive-aggressive curt dismissal thing is tiresome no matter who does it.

I have made several arguments. If you don't want to take the time to read them, that's on you.

No, I've seen you agree that he screwed up. Which begs the question why you're baiting "Tony haters" with stuff like the post above.

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

Would you stop it already? I'm as fatigued by the negativity as anyone, but there have been legit gripes with Tony for years and particularly last night. If you want to make an argument in his favor, then take the time and do it. This passive-aggressive curt dismissal thing is tiresome no matter who does it.

I have made several arguments. If you don't want to take the time to read them, that's on you.

No, I've seen you agree that he screwed up. Which begs the question why you're baiting "Tony haters" with stuff like the post above.

The Tony haters are blaming the loss on him. I am not. I am not bating anyone.

wart57 wrote:

dmarx114 wrote:

wart57 wrote:

themiddle54 wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

I'll raise that bet. I highly doubt STL fans, Tony haters or acolytes, are enjoying having 8-10 bona fide stupid LaRussa decisions to kick around this morning. I'd think more likely the Tony haters, like the defenders, are miserable this morning about what they witnessed last night.

I am not that upset actually. The guys didn't hit when they needed a hit. That, more than any Tony decision cost the Cards the game. If you can't see that, in my opinion, you are letting your hatred for TLR cloud your judgement. Did TLR [expletive] up last night, hell yea he did, but the players did not make the plays they are paid to make.
The Craig bunt put men on 2nd and 3rd with less than 1 out, I would take any day with Albert and Matt coming up. If Craig grounds in to a DP, I bet there would have been a ton of second guessers there blasting Tony for not bunting.

That situation never happened.

You are correct, it put Furcal on 3rd with 1 out. I would still take that.

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

Would you stop it already? I'm as fatigued by the negativity as anyone, but there have been legit gripes with Tony for years and particularly last night. If you want to make an argument in his favor, then take the time and do it. This passive-aggressive curt dismissal thing is tiresome no matter who does it.

I have made several arguments. If you don't want to take the time to read them, that's on you.

No, I've seen you agree that he screwed up. Which begs the question why you're baiting "Tony haters" with stuff like the post above.

The Tony haters are blaming the loss on him. I am not. I am not bating anyone.

You're in a thread called "TLR Head Scratcher thread" using the simplistic phrase "Tony haters" to describe people with legitimate gripes about a world series game. You can't possibly be serious about this.

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:

ghostrunner wrote:

wart57 wrote:I bet you Tony haters are loving this.

Would you stop it already? I'm as fatigued by the negativity as anyone, but there have been legit gripes with Tony for years and particularly last night. If you want to make an argument in his favor, then take the time and do it. This passive-aggressive curt dismissal thing is tiresome no matter who does it.

I have made several arguments. If you don't want to take the time to read them, that's on you.

No, I've seen you agree that he screwed up. Which begs the question why you're baiting "Tony haters" with stuff like the post above.

The Tony haters are blaming the loss on him. I am not. I am not bating anyone.

You're in a thread called "TLR Head Scratcher thread" using the simplistic phrase "Tony haters" to describe people with legitimate gripes about a world series game. You can't possibly be serious about this.

So, I am not allowed to disagree? I sometimes think some posters here get more enjoyment from a Cards loss when they can complain about TLR than they get from a win. I am calling people out on this. If you don't like it, tough. Get over it.