UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

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Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

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M1IRONMIKE wrote:
dexter wrote:in retrospect, did we draft wallace to trade him? or was this a case of take the best talent sort it out later?

I don't think we drafted Wallcae to trade him I think we drafted Wallace against TLR's wishes. He never gave the kid a chance in spring training where it was obvious we had problems at 3rd base and his refusal to bring him up in the last month or so when we really had problems at 3rd base. TLR just doesn't like him.
He allegedly hated Colby Rasmus too. Except Rasmus is playing every day now and is untouchable in any trade.

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Socnorb11 wrote:
PujolJunkie wrote:FTR, Beyond the Boxscore thinks we got severely kicked in the ass in the trade but goes on to say that it adds 15% to our odds of making the playoffs. I think if this was a different GM (Beane) a lot of people would have a different opinion. But since so many bloggers are so far up Beane's ass that they can see the enamel on his teeth, it gets skewered in the wrong direction.
I think many of the bloggers aren't taking the potential comp. picks into consideration, or the possibility of re-signing Holliday.

Either that or they're seriously overvaluing Motensen.
I agree. It's disappointing vivaelbirdos didn't mention the picks possibility in their opening salvo.

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Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

Big deal: Cardinals acquire Holliday from A’s
Needing to upgrade an offense that had scored three or fewer runs six times in the previous two weeks, and finding it increasingly more difficult to convince teams to pitch to Albert Pujols, the St. Louis Cardinals on Friday struck a deal for the biggest bat on the trade market.

By early afternoon, Matt Holliday had packed up in his midtown Manhattan hotel room; put his pregnant wife, Leslee, and two children into the back of a rented SUV; and was headed for Philadelphia, where his new ballclub would play the first of a three-game series against the Phillies. The Oakland A’s will receive three prospects for Holliday, including well-regarded Brett Wallace. The trade is expected to be announced in the next hour.

The Cardinals did not require a physical for Holliday, who had missed only one game for the A’s this season. Holliday could be somewhere behind Pujols in the Cardinals’ lineup Friday night when they face Phillies lefty J.A. Happ(notes) at 7:05 p.m. ET at Citizens Bank Park.

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I believe Mo made the decision that Wallace wouldn't get promoted to the bigs this year, not TLR.

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fanforever wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

Big deal: Cardinals acquire Holliday from A’s
Needing to upgrade an offense that had scored three or fewer runs six times in the previous two weeks, and finding it increasingly more difficult to convince teams to pitch to Albert Pujols, the St. Louis Cardinals on Friday struck a deal for the biggest bat on the trade market.

By early afternoon, Matt Holliday had packed up in his midtown Manhattan hotel room; put his pregnant wife, Leslee, and two children into the back of a rented SUV; and was headed for Philadelphia, where his new ballclub would play the first of a three-game series against the Phillies. The Oakland A’s will receive three prospects for Holliday, including well-regarded Brett Wallace. The trade is expected to be announced in the next hour.

The Cardinals did not require a physical for Holliday, who had missed only one game for the A’s this season. Holliday could be somewhere behind Pujols in the Cardinals’ lineup Friday night when they face Phillies lefty J.A. Happ(notes) at 7:05 p.m. ET at Citizens Bank Park.
That's weird.

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Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

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JL21 wrote:
M1IRONMIKE wrote:
dexter wrote:in retrospect, did we draft wallace to trade him? or was this a case of take the best talent sort it out later?

I don't think we drafted Wallcae to trade him I think we drafted Wallace against TLR's wishes. He never gave the kid a chance in spring training where it was obvious we had problems at 3rd base and his refusal to bring him up in the last month or so when we really had problems at 3rd base. TLR just doesn't like him.
He allegedly hated Colby Rasmus too. Except Rasmus is playing every day now and is untouchable in any trade.
True but the ship hasn't yet sailed on that one.......with Holliday now in the mix i see colby losing time to Ankiel

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Isn't Holliday pretty much the ideal TLR "Damage" player for the #2 slot in the lineup, like Larry Walker was? And Edmonds?

It doesn't matter to me much, it just seems like it'd be a natural fit. I'd love to see a lineup with DeRosa leading off, Holliday #2, Pujols, Ludwick, Rasmus. That'd make an opposing starter crap his pants in the first inning.

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Cronos69 wrote:How's Holliday's throwing arm?

Check him throwin gout Cano at 2b the other night. Granted Cano was not hustling but Holliday nailed him easily. It is on mlb.com

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Our farm system sucks again.

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JL21 wrote:Isn't Holliday pretty much the ideal TLR "Damage" player for the #2 slot in the lineup,
No, that's Juan Encarnacion.

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