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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:08 pm
by indyredbird
docellis wrote:I guess no matter who is elected they are going to be blamed for the economic situation as it unfolds.
As well they should. Both parties fell asleep at the wheel. Both parties held control of congress and oversight committees, neither did anything. I guess Obama should be excluded as he has been campaigning for President most of his time in office.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:10 pm
by Freed Roger
indyredbird wrote:Just curious, but I would like to know what Obama has done in his background that make you believe he will bring about wonderful change? I am not saying that McCain is the wonderful answer either, I just want to know what you think he has done that has been successful.
Obama brings hope to the table. He' smart and educated. Diverse well-traveled man. Well-respected state senator, US senator. Constitutional lawyer. I see his conduct during this campaign and YES his ability to speak as a positive sign. We currently have a president that can't speak and relate to anyone other than a few cronies. Did you know GWB has made several statements about the financial crisis - but nobody listens to him at home nor abroad. We are like a country without a leader. We sorely need a leader. I could say more but I'm outta here.

anybody with a long history in politics couldn't be elected in this Rove era of politics anyway.. Gore and Kerry had much more qualifications, but it became their downfall. that's the way the GOP made this political game, so why should they complain?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:13 pm
by sighyoung
docellis wrote:I guess no matter who is elected they are going to be blamed for the economic situation as it unfolds.
It's quite the pile of s*** to shovel--a long, deep global recession, a credit crisis, heavy personal and governmental indebtedness, the desperate need for entitlement reform and health care reform, revising seriously outdated financial regulations, unwinding governmental intervention in the financial markets, wars abroad and the specter of a nuclear Iran and South Korea, high unemployment, rising inflation, high energy prices and food prices, squeezed lower- and middle-income families.

Yeah, I'm so excited.

As Flannery O'Connor writes in "A Good Man Is Hard To Find":
"Some fun!" Bobby Lee said.

"Shut up, Bobby Lee," The Misfit said. "It's no real pleasure in life."

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:17 pm
by BW23
Freed Roger wrote:
BW23 wrote:Whoever attacks us on our own land next. That and blacks.

And yet here's a guy that is both black and Muslim heritage that will be the next president. Guess you can't please everyone.
I'm glad my ethnic bloodlines are a bunch of clean industrious do-Gooders....Germans.... :x
lol

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:19 pm
by indyredbird
Freed Roger wrote:
indyredbird wrote:Just curious, but I would like to know what Obama has done in his background that make you believe he will bring about wonderful change? I am not saying that McCain is the wonderful answer either, I just want to know what you think he has done that has been successful.
Obama brings hope to the table. He' smart and educated. Diverse well-traveled man. Well-respected state senator, US senator. Constitutional lawyer. I see his conduct during this campaign and YES his ability to speak as a positive sign. We currently have a president that can't speak and relate to anyone other than a few cronies. Did you know GWB has made several statements about the financial crisis - but nobody listens to him at home nor abroad. We are like a country without a leader. We sorely need a leader. I could say more but I'm outta here.

anybody with a long history in politics couldn't be elected in this Rove era of politics anyway.. Gore and Kerry had much more qualifications, but it became their downfall. that's the way the GOP made this political game, so why should they complain?
Ok he is bright and articulate, and George Bush sucks, but what has he done?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:22 pm
by greenback44
Freed Roger wrote:Did you know GWB has made several statements about the financial crisis - but nobody listens to him at home nor abroad.
False! For example:
The Associated Press wrote:At the White House earlier in the day, Bush said, "We're in this together and we'll come through this together." He added, "Anxiety can feed anxiety, and that can make it hard to see all that's being done to solve the problem."

He made it clear the United States must work with other countries to battle the worst financial crisis that has jolted the world economy in more than a half-century.

"We've seen that problems in the financial system are not isolated to the United States," he said. "So we're working closely with partners around the world to ensure that our actions are coordinated and effective."

The Dow dropped a little over 100 points while he was speaking.
The same AP article says we're buying banks BTW.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:27 pm
by sighyoung
greenback44 wrote:
Freed Roger wrote:Did you know GWB has made several statements about the financial crisis - but nobody listens to him at home nor abroad.
False! For example:
The Associated Press wrote:At the White House earlier in the day, Bush said, "We're in this together and we'll come through this together." He added, "Anxiety can feed anxiety, and that can make it hard to see all that's being done to solve the problem."

He made it clear the United States must work with other countries to battle the worst financial crisis that has jolted the world economy in more than a half-century.

"We've seen that problems in the financial system are not isolated to the United States," he said. "So we're working closely with partners around the world to ensure that our actions are coordinated and effective."

The Dow dropped a little over 100 points while he was speaking.
The same AP article says we're buying banks BTW.
Correct me if I'm wrong--we're buying equity stakes in banks to provide them with capital, and that this provision was a little acknowledged part of the bailout bill, and probably an even bigger deal than the purchasing of distressed assets from the banks.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:28 pm
by sighyoung
sighyoung wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong--we're buying equity stakes in banks to provide them with capital, and that this provision was a little acknowledged part of the bailout bill, and probably an even bigger deal than the purchasing of distressed assets from the banks.
Leroy wrote:You're wrong.
Just a little preemptive action here.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:28 pm
by KyCardinalFan
Freed Roger wrote:It makes me uneasy the way Muslims are openly hated in this country. who do we hate next?
Alaskans?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 10 08, 7:31 pm
by Leroy
sighyoung wrote:
sighyoung wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong--we're buying equity stakes in banks to provide them with capital, and that this provision was a little acknowledged part of the bailout bill, and probably an even bigger deal than the purchasing of distressed assets from the banks.
Leroy wrote:You're wrong.
Just a little preemptive action here.
Heh.