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Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:05 pm
by Michael
dexter wrote:has derosa indicated that he is interested in re-signing? nsbbians are confident he'll return to wrigleyville.

He loved playing in Chicago, but I think that is partly wishful thinking.

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:06 pm
by JDE
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
JDE wrote:Will he be in the lineup tonight?
My gut is telling me yes. But my gut is also very hungry.
He was in NYC last night, so not far to travel if that's the case.

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:06 pm
by JS04
haltz wrote:
JS04 wrote:Can someone do a payroll write up for next year with a Holliday extension at 16/16.25 mil per and a DeRosa extension of 8/9 mil a year?

Possibly a 4 yr, 65 mil deal for Holliday and a 3 yr, 24 for DeRosa?

What does that put the payroll at?

Assuming this is your starting lineup:
Schu
Ras
Pujols
Holliday
Ludwick
DeRosa
Molina
Pitcher
Ryan

What do those two deals do for the payroll next year with all the subtractions we're making? What does Ludwick make next year (I don't see any posts considering payroll regarding the raise he may get)? Just curious as to what our payroll does if we re-sign those two guys at those prices...

Hell, let's also say we re-sign Piniero at 8 mil a year for 3 years (is that reasonable?) and fill the 5th spot within the organization?

Can someone do all this? Cause I wouldn't know where to start
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/1 ... 41890.html
Hmm..thanks for the link

I came up with 92 million (disregarding performance bonuses) for these players (assuming 16 for Holliday, 8 for DeRosa, 8 for Piniero, and 5 for Ludwick, and 1 million for Trevor Miller and LaRue)

Pujols, Holliday, Ludwick, Molina, DeRosa, Wainwright, Carpenter, Lohse, Piniero, Franklin, Reyes, Miller, LaRue

Thats 13 roster players...so we need to fill in 12 roster spots at roughly 13 million

Rasmus and Ryan are probably under 750 K, you can probably fill a 5th rotation spot from within for under 500 K

What does Schu get? Couple mill? I don't know the rules behind all the arb eligible stuff and how long they are under our control

So say Schu gets 2, no idea if tahts right, and those guys each get 750 K...you need to fill in 4 relievers (McLellan, Motte?) and 4 bench spots with probably 9 mill....thats doable no?

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:06 pm
by Cronos
Michael wrote:
dexter wrote:has derosa indicated that he is interested in re-signing? nsbbians are confident he'll return to wrigleyville.

He loved playing in Chicago, but I think that is partly wishful thinking.
There was one person on NSBB who said something along the lines of hoping that DeRosa could nix the deal just because he wouldn't want to play with the Cardinals after being a Cub.

DeRosa seems almost like a minor deity to Cubs fans.

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:07 pm
by docellis
JDE wrote:
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
JDE wrote:Will he be in the lineup tonight?
My gut is telling me yes. But my gut is also very hungry.
He was in NYC last night, so not far to travel if that's the case.
He rented an SUV and is on his way to Philly now (with his pregnant wife and two kids).

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:07 pm
by fanforever
My gut tells me that in addition to Mo and Jeff Luhnow, John Abbamondi had allot to do with making this trade happen as well.

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:11 pm
by JDE
docellis wrote:
JDE wrote:
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
JDE wrote:Will he be in the lineup tonight?
My gut is telling me yes. But my gut is also very hungry.
He was in NYC last night, so not far to travel if that's the case.
He rented an SUV and is on his way to Philly now (with his pregnant wife and two kids).
I just passed him on the Eisenhower Expressway.

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:12 pm
by dexter
me too. looks like his kids are watching Air Bud.

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:12 pm
by haltz
fanforever wrote:My gut tells me that in addition to Mo and Jeff Luhnow, John Abbamondi had allot to do with making this trade happen as well.
Probably, he went to the Mark DeRosa school of being awesome at life.

Re: UPDATE: Cards Acquire Holliday, page 26

Posted: July 24 09, 1:13 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
JDE wrote:
docellis wrote:
JDE wrote:
InvincibleCakeEater wrote:
JDE wrote:Will he be in the lineup tonight?
My gut is telling me yes. But my gut is also very hungry.
He was in NYC last night, so not far to travel if that's the case.
He rented an SUV and is on his way to Philly now (with his pregnant wife and two kids).
I just passed him on the Eisenhower Expressway.
You shoulda told him to hurry the hell up!