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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 4:12 pm
by ghostrunner
heyzeus wrote:
Radbird wrote:On the foxnews.com front page right now.
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Obama, who has consistently downplayed his relationship with domestic
terrorist William Ayers, once gave a glowing endorsement of his book.


http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20 ... ook-ayers/
Ugh. And the Ku Klux Klan has endorsed a lot of states' same-sex marriage laws, too. Obama is as much of a domestic terrorist as anyone who opposes same-sex marriage is a Klansman.
I think the more stuff like this comes out, the worse it makes his original "guy in my neighborhood" comment look. I'd say he'd have been better off being candid about this stuff up front, but I'm not sure that's true. We'll probably hear more about the content of this book pretty soon.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 4:13 pm
by jim
BW23 wrote:I refuse to use blue font. Takes the fun out of things.
You take the fun out of a lot of things, so I'd say don't sweat the blue font.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 4:15 pm
by TheoSqua
jim wrote:
BW23 wrote:I refuse to use blue font. Takes the fun out of things.
You take the fun out of a lot of things, so I'd say don't sweat the blue font.
burn

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 4:35 pm
by BW23
Wow. Now my feelings are hurt.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 4:37 pm
by cpebbles
ghostrunner wrote:I think the more stuff like this comes out, the worse it makes his original "guy in my neighborhood" comment look. I'd say he'd have been better off being candid about this stuff up front, but I'm not sure that's true. We'll probably hear more about the content of this book pretty soon.
Except that you're getting this "guy in my neighborhood" denial from John McCain, who decided to try to make the case that Obama was not forthcoming about his relationship to hedge his bets on the actual association proving damaging. Here is where it comes from, courtesy of factcheck.org:
ABC News' George Stephanopoulos, April 16: An early organizing meeting for your state senate campaign was held at his house, and your campaign has said you are friendly. Can you explain that relationship for the voters, and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?

Obama: George, but this is an example of what I'm talking about.

This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense, George.

Sen. Hillary Clinton then said, "I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation," and predicted that "this is an issue that certainly Republicans will be raising."

Obama responded, "President Clinton pardoned or commuted the sentences of two members of the Weather Underground, which I think is a slightly more significant act than me ... serving on a board with somebody for actions that he did 40 years ago."
He wasn't at all misleading. I guess he forgot to mention that he wrote a positive review of one of Ayers' nonfiction works, which is, in my mind at least, much less of an issue than the allegations that he did address.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 5:13 pm
by jim
BW23 wrote:Wow. Now my feelings are hurt.
You have feelings? Haven't noticed.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 5:15 pm
by BW23
Not really. I'm a republican. We don't have feelings. Remember?

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 5:20 pm
by jim
I thought Republicans were just stupid, i didn't realize they didn't have feelings either.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 5:25 pm
by BW23
Stupid and heartless.

Racist, too, apparently.

Thanks for the kind words, though.

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin

Posted: October 20 08, 5:26 pm
by jim
You forgot greedy, and you are welcome.