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Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 2:46 pm
by haltz
jim wrote:Holy Cow. Didn't Palin get the VP role with the Senate wrong before?
Good grief.
AFAIK that's just a reaction to the first time. I'm sure her handlers were all over it after that.
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 2:49 pm
by Radbird
haltz wrote:jim wrote:Holy Cow. Didn't Palin get the VP role with the Senate wrong before?
Good grief.
AFAIK that's just a reaction to the first time. I'm sure her handlers were all over it after that.
No, she just made that statement the other day in an interview with Denver's NBC affiliate.
Palin tells 3rd grader the vice president 'runs' Senate
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 2:51 pm
by haltz
Radbird wrote:haltz wrote:jim wrote:Holy Cow. Didn't Palin get the VP role with the Senate wrong before?
Good grief.
AFAIK that's just a reaction to the first time. I'm sure her handlers were all over it after that.
No, she just made that statement the other day in an interview with Denver's NBC affiliate.
Palin tells 3rd grader the vice president 'runs' Senate
That's what I meant. If that was the second time that's hysterical.
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 3:00 pm
by jim
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 3:02 pm
by Leroy
Oh man, this is the first step to his world domination.
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 3:12 pm
by Dillagii
Its interesting to see Canadians want Obama to win.
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 3:12 pm
by Radbird
Interesting take from Robert J. Samuelson.
Young Voters, Get Mad
To: Voters Under 35
Subject: Your Future
Recommendation: Get Angry
You're being played for chumps. Barack Obama and John McCain want your votes, but they're ignoring your interests. You face a heavily mortgaged future. You'll pay Social Security and Medicare for aging baby boomers. The needed federal tax increase might total 50 percent over the next 25 years. Pension and health costs for state and local workers have doubtlessly been underestimated. There's the expense of decaying infrastructure—roads, bridges, water pipes. All this will squeeze other crucial government services: education, defense, police.
You're not hearing much of this in the campaign. One reason, frankly, is that you don't seem to care. Obama's your favorite candidate (by 64 percent to 33 percent among 18- to 29-year-olds, according to the latest Post-ABC News poll). But he's outsourced his position on these issues to AARP, the 40 million-member group for Americans 50 and over.
Click link above for the rest.
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 3:19 pm
by jim
Some place we are leaving our kids, huh?
Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 3:48 pm
by Freed Roger
Radbird wrote:Interesting take from Robert J. Samuelson.
Young Voters, Get Mad
To: Voters Under 35
Subject: Your Future
Recommendation: Get Angry
You're being played for chumps. Barack Obama and John McCain want your votes, but they're ignoring your interests. You face a heavily mortgaged future. You'll pay Social Security and Medicare for aging baby boomers. The needed federal tax increase might total 50 percent over the next 25 years. Pension and health costs for state and local workers have doubtlessly been underestimated. There's the expense of decaying infrastructure—roads, bridges, water pipes. All this will squeeze other crucial government services: education, defense, police.
You're not hearing much of this in the campaign. One reason, frankly, is that you don't seem to care. Obama's your favorite candidate (by 64 percent to 33 percent among 18- to 29-year-olds, according to the latest Post-ABC News poll). But he's outsourced his position on these issues to AARP, the 40 million-member group for Americans 50 and over.
Click link above for the rest.
thanks for the article.
Samuelson could have included costs of failed foreign policy in his case too. overdependence on military solutions are expensive. Even though the amount is unknown, just Iraq alone will cost a fortune all paid for somewhere in the future -vet benefits, replenishing the military etc etc. generation is paying with their lives now.
Kids be at a competitive economic disadvantage to foreign countries because of the defense spending burden (I actually think the burden is much higher, costs buried in other parts of the budget)

Re: Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin
Posted: October 22 08, 5:23 pm
by G. Keenan
Anyone just catch Chris Matthews absolutely tear into Sarah Palin for her comments that the VP is "in charge" of the Senate and that's she'd be in there with the Senators shaping policy? It was haaaarsh.