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I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.

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Popeye_Card wrote:I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.
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Popeye_Card wrote:I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.
Okay, so how am I jumping under the bus for the rich, then?

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Popeye_Card wrote:I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.
The American Dream is still alive. We'll do anything to associate with the upper class.

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BW23 wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.
Okay, so how am I jumping under the bus for the rich, then?
Arguing for 597 pages that raising taxes on the upper 1% is equal to socialism and voting for the candidate that wants to increase tax cuts on that same group.

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BW23 wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.
Okay, so how am I jumping under the bus for the rich, then?
Well, if you're voting to save their tax rate vs. looking out for your own, that would be a reason.

I understand that your distrust of Obama trumps all of that. I disagree with you of course, but that's a different issue than what I was discussing.

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letsgocards89 wrote:There's a big difference between a help up (college grants, Job Corps) and a handout (wealth redistribution).
How do you know that Obama is calling for a "handout" here? Or really know what Obama meant at all? It's rather difficult to gather much from short interview clips in a propaganda video.

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BW23 wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.
Okay, so how am I jumping under the bus for the rich, then?
You just said not but a couple of pages ago that you'd save X amount of dollars under Obama's plan. And then you said "Ah well, I'm still not voting for him."

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Michael wrote:During one of the greatest economic expansions in our history, the rich's real wealth has grown considerably, while the middle class has been relatively flat, and the lower class's wealth has actually declined. Things haven't exactly trickled down. I have no problem reversing Bush's tax cut for the wealthy.
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PujolJunkie wrote:
BW23 wrote:
Popeye_Card wrote:I'm perpetually amazed by the Republican party's ability to prod middle and lower class citizens to jump under the bus for the upper class.
Okay, so how am I jumping under the bus for the rich, then?
You just said not but a couple of pages ago that you'd save X amount of dollars under Obama's plan. And then you said "Ah well, I'm still not voting for him."
Well, that's an easy mistake to make when you assume that someone is voting on the single issue you think they are. I've heard for years now that "middle America" is stupid for backing Republican candidates because their income bracket doesn't benefit from the right being in power. But in reality, middle America may be considering something other than taxes when voting. I know I am this election.

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