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Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 23 18, 2:51 pm
by phins
There actually is a nice part of a thread about him already. He was a star on the international circuit at an early age. He's advanced physically, which is part of what you're seeing already, and a reason for pause.
As a 14 y/o he was considered one of the best position prospects in the world. He sort of stalled physically and started getting thicker, to the point that most believe he ends up at 1B. His swing has a bit of length and there are questions as to how he'll handle velocity at higher levels. The Cardinals have had a relationship with him since he was at least 12 and he followed through with signing here for the maximum allowed $300,000. Others backed off of him some due to the questions above, but he's clearly better than a 300k talent and I'm super excited to see him play in the States.
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 23 18, 5:14 pm
by Big Amoco Sign
Lefty Kris Bryant with maybe a little less defensive ability.
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 2:22 pm
by phins
Big Amoco Sign wrote:Lefty Kris Bryant with maybe a little less defensive ability.
Woah. Kris Bryant is legitimately one of the five best players in all of MLB. Let's at least wait until he plays in this country.
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 2:51 pm
by cardsfantx
phins wrote:Big Amoco Sign wrote:Lefty Kris Bryant with maybe a little less defensive ability.
Woah. Kris Bryant is legitimately one of the five best players in all of MLB. Let's at least wait until he plays in this country.
pretty sure he was talking about gorman and not nunez, since the thread is about gorman and he's a lefty (nunez bats right)
but yeah...way too early for that kind of talk, but how can you not love/be excited what gorman is doing
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 3:05 pm
by Big Amoco Sign
phins wrote:Big Amoco Sign wrote:Lefty Kris Bryant with maybe a little less defensive ability.
Woah. Kris Bryant is legitimately one of the five best players in all of MLB. Let's at least wait until he plays in this country.
Gorman definitely has potential to be Bryant with a little less defensive ability.
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 4:01 pm
by CardsofSTL
phins wrote:Big Amoco Sign wrote:Lefty Kris Bryant with maybe a little less defensive ability.
Woah. Kris Bryant is legitimately one of the five best players in all of MLB. Let's at least wait until he plays in this country.
Eh..top six players. Cub penalty.
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 6:22 pm
by go birds
im cautiously optimistic about the cards developing a middle of the order bat
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 6:24 pm
by MrCrowesGarden
Two more dingers.
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 9:55 pm
by Socnorb11
MrCrowesGarden wrote:Two more dingers.
I'm not sure, but I think those 2 were hit in a game back in early July that wasn't completed, and the game was resumed tonight.
Re: The Nolan Gorman Mega Thread
Posted: August 24 18, 10:40 pm
by phins
Big Amoco Sign wrote:phins wrote:Big Amoco Sign wrote:Lefty Kris Bryant with maybe a little less defensive ability.
Woah. Kris Bryant is legitimately one of the five best players in all of MLB. Let's at least wait until he plays in this country.
Gorman definitely has potential to be Bryant with a little less defensive ability.
I'm generally overly optimistic, but I just can't hang this kind of thing on any player. It's like comparing an OF to Trout, or a soft-tossing lefty to Jamie Moyer. Those guys are incredibly rare.
Kris Bryant's worst wRC+ at any level in the minor leagues was 161 (at AAA). His worst slugging was .619. He has a 6, a 7, and an 8 win season under his belt. He was older, but he's just been phenomenal since the moment he started playing baseball. He had a .466 wOBA as a freshman. A .487 wOBA as a sophomore. A .539 wOBA as a Junior.
What is it that is making it to where we would feel comfortable projecting a guy to be a 6+ WAR player at this point in his development? Keep in mind a 3-win player is worth 50% more than what is considered an average player (2 wins). Kris Bryant is an incredible, incredible baseball player.
I'd say that the Kiley McDaniel comp. of Austin Riley is pretty great still. That's a top-50 prospect in all of baseball.