Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Discuss all things Cardinals Baseball
Post Reply
User avatar
GeddyWrox
Caught you a delicious bass
Posts: 14665
Joined: April 20 06, 8:43 pm
Location: Please use blue font for the sarcasm impaired.

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by GeddyWrox »

Image

Magneto2.0
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 18092
Joined: June 16 07, 2:12 pm

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by Magneto2.0 »

Socnorb11 wrote: ↑
July 28 23, 1:44 pm
MrCrowesGarden wrote: ↑
July 28 23, 1:39 pm
Socnorb11 wrote: ↑
July 28 23, 1:28 pm
This looks an awful lot like a market lopsided toward buyers, unfortunately.
Not at all, there are more buyers than sellers.

I'm just bading it on selling price on the deals that have been made.
Nobody great has been traded yet. The returns have been matching what is being given up imo.

The haul for rentals has changed a lot of the last decade. Teams aren't emptying out their systems or even giving up top 5 prospects, in most cases, rentals. It would have to be a real game changer. None of those type of guys have moved yet.

The best person traded so far is who? Lucas Giolito? Who is a nice pitcher, but he has a career FIP and ERA over 4.2.

Cardinals should expect similar for Monty and Flaherty. The real haul they would get is if they make some uncomfortable moves like Edman, Donovan, Carlson, Contreras, or hell, even Gorman, etc...

jagtrader
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 12651
Joined: June 5 06, 10:01 am

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by jagtrader »

I’d look at the Phillies. Dombrowski will trade anything that isn’t bolted to the floor. He won’t be there in three years anyway.

User avatar
MrCrowesGarden
'Burb Boy
Posts: 24841
Joined: July 9 06, 11:33 am
Location: Out of the Loop

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by MrCrowesGarden »

Giolito and Reynaldo Lopez returned a top 100 prospect.

Jedibaracuda
Veteran Player
Posts: 628
Joined: April 6 21, 8:39 am

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by Jedibaracuda »

Who’s supposedly on the trade block for us?

Magneto2.0
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 18092
Joined: June 16 07, 2:12 pm

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by Magneto2.0 »

jagtrader wrote: ↑
July 28 23, 1:50 pm
I’d look at the Phillies. Dombrowski will trade anything that isn’t bolted to the floor. He won’t be there in three years anyway.
Goold mentioned this in his update to day to keep an eye on them. And they have young pitching. He also was saying they know they would have to package their expiring pitchers with some controllable bats in order to get a deal for young controllable arms.

He also said they haven't entertained any offers for Nootbaar, Walker or Edman

But Gorman seems to be available, but the young pitching arm would have to match the quality of Gorman's power potential

Also surprisingly teams are in on Burleson too.

Magneto2.0
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 18092
Joined: June 16 07, 2:12 pm

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by Magneto2.0 »

Jedibaracuda wrote: ↑
July 28 23, 1:55 pm
Who’s supposedly on the trade block for us?
According to Goold:
Flaherty, Monty, Hicks, Donovan, Burelson, Carlson, O'Neill, Helsley, and Gorman (under the right circumstances)

Walker, Nootbaar and Edman are not

Goldschmidt and Arenado are not (but the Dodgers are definitely trying, but it would have to be a "clear out your farm system" type deal it seems)

User avatar
MrCrowesGarden
'Burb Boy
Posts: 24841
Joined: July 9 06, 11:33 am
Location: Out of the Loop

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by MrCrowesGarden »

jagtrader wrote: ↑
July 28 23, 1:50 pm
I’d look at the Phillies. Dombrowski will trade anything that isn’t bolted to the floor. He won’t be there in three years anyway.

jagtrader
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 12651
Joined: June 5 06, 10:01 am

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by jagtrader »

Jeff Jones, whoever that is, agrees!

cardsfantx
Hall Of Famer
Posts: 12201
Joined: November 6 10, 10:58 am

Re: Mozeliak: "Some Changes" Coming For Cardinals, But Not A Rebuild

Post by cardsfantx »

The best not trade gorman

Post Reply