Coronavirus

[Leroy]

So if you got it, but never had symptoms, but your antibody fades in a short time, what difference would it make if you got it again? What I mean is, why wouldn't you just get it and not have symptoms for a second time.

Unless you got it worse the second time maybe?

[planet planet]

Wow, NY, NJ, and CT are issuing a travel advisory and mandatory 14 day quarantine for people traveling from hot spot states. Obviously you could drive or fly into a neighboring state to avoid if you really needed to get there.

[ghostrunner]

This is in Austin

[ghostrunner]

based on the graph i look at, today is 2nd most cases...with still a few hours left in the day

Just noticed deaths went up yesterday relative to last Tuesday, which is the day reports typically peak for the week. Only by 2, but it's the first week they haven't dropped.

[Jocephus]

based on the graph i look at, today is 2nd most cases...with still a few hours left in the day

Just noticed deaths went up yesterday relative to last Tuesday, which is the day reports typically peak for the week. Only by 2, but it's the first week they haven't dropped.

yesterday was 33,730 cases, which i believe is 2nd most daily total. the most cases, on the graph i look at, is 34,203 back on 4/25.

we're at 28,731 at 1:42pm mountain time today. not sure when daily counts get cut off for reporting but today could be a record breaker.

[thrill]

Still no symptoms for your boy. Got tested yesterday. Waited in a line of cars for 5.5 hours. They ran out of antibody tests already. My work buddy who I spend pretty much every day with in the office and on the road tested positive on Monday and has extremely mild symptoms, which is good.

Breaking records every day! Woo!!!

In other news, I finally unpacked and set up my home office today, so I’ll be very comfortable when we inevitably shut down for even longer this time. More cases in Orange County Florida than the nation of Germany. We’re an absolute joke of a country and it’s so much worse under republican administrations. Wars, plagues, and recessions. It’s just what they do, I guess. Sorry if that’s too political.

[Smith Corks One]

As we say in baseball, small sample size warning. But early returns are trending negatively:

COVID-19 antibodies may fade in as little as 2 months, study says

As the world grapples with the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, a new study suggests that antibodies -- the proteins produced by the immune system that can grant protection against reinfection -- may fade in as little as two months after infection in certain people who have recovered from the virus. The study was conducted in China and published in Nature Medicine.

Specifically, the study's authors found that people with COVID-19 who never develop symptoms may see their antibodies fade more quickly than those who tested positive for the virus and also came down with its tell-tale symptoms. The study, though small and with limitations, provides greater insight into a topic that mystifies scientists examining this new coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. Most people who have recovered from COVID-19 develop antibodies, but the extent and duration of that protection remains unknown.

The data suggests that asymptomatic people had a weaker immune response to the virus, echoing NIAID Director Anthony Fauci's concerns about varying antibody protection.

Past studies on SARS and MERS, two related coronaviruses that have led to prior outbreaks in people, have found that antibodies last for at least a year. In comparison, this study suggests that antibody levels for the new virus, SARS-CoV-2, may drop much more quickly. "Given that antibodies are likely a component of COVID-19 protective immunity, this is important to confirm in larger studies," said Dr. Beth Kirkpatrick, chair of the Department of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics at the University of Vermont.

"I think that you're going to see as the immune response wanes in these respiratory infections, there is a possibility that you could get reinfected," said Dr. Robert Garry, professor at the Tulane University School of Medicine. Garry cautioned, however, that it's too soon to know what level of immunity is protective. Scientists will know more as they get closer to developing a coronavirus vaccine, but for now, it would have to provide longer-lasting immunity than a natural infection, he said. "That's hard to do," said Garry.

"Until there's a vaccine, things are not really going to be able to be relaxed to the point where people were doing the things that they were doing before," Garry said.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/covid-19-anti ... ories.html

The last part confuses me. If everything else it says is true, wouldn’t a vaccine pretty much be useless?

[mikechamp]

After a certain amount of time, yes. But I think it might be comparable to the flu vaccine, where you get it every year, instead of a polio vaccine. And even for that, you get a booster every once in a while.

[sighyoung]

So if you got it, but never had symptoms, but your antibody fades in a short time, what difference would it make if you got it again? What I mean is, why wouldn't you just get it and not have symptoms for a second time.

Unless you got it worse the second time maybe?

I remember reading about a person who was asymptomatic the first time, but had a fever and trouble breathing the second time she caught it. Unfortunately, I saw the article a month ago--I don't think I could find it.

[IMADreamer]

We are supposed to leave Saturday for vacation. We are kicking around the idea of canceling. It definitely seems like the virus is coming back and we don't want to be a part of the problem. Not sure what we are going to do yet but I think we are leaning towards not going.